RE: Latest changes to the Road Traffic No 2 Act 2013
I Think it's a bit petty raising the points to 3 for phones and no seat-belt. I can sort of get my head around the 3 points for speeding, but I think it should be a step affect, where the higher you are above the speed limit results in more points you receive. 3 points for going 110kph in a 100kph zone would be harsh, I think 120 in a 100 would be harsh.....and probably a bit more.
The mobile phone thing really gets on my nerves, I know Guards are only human but the amount of times I pass marked and unmarked cars with the driver on their mobile phone is actually ridiculous, I occasionally use my phone when driving, im guilty, I try to hide the fact I do and have often placed it down when approaching a marked/ unmarked car, only to pass them and notice they are chatting away on their phone. Im not having a go about Guards at all, have plenty of friends in the blue force.
RE: Latest changes to the Road Traffic No 2 Act 2013
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Originally Posted by Remote
I Think it's a bit petty raising the points to 3 for phones and no seat-belt. I can sort of get my head around the 3 points for speeding, but I think it should be a step affect, where the higher you are above the speed limit results in more points you receive. 3 points for going 110kph in a 100kph zone would be harsh, I think 120 in a 100 would be harsh.....and probably a bit more.
The mobile phone thing really gets on my nerves, I know Guards are only human but the amount of times I pass marked and unmarked cars with the driver on their mobile phone is actually ridiculous, I occasionally use my phone when driving, im guilty, I try to hide the fact I do and have often placed it down when approaching a marked/ unmarked car, only to pass them and notice they are chatting away on their phone. Im not having a go about Guards at all, have plenty of friends in the blue force.
Do as I say not as I do. Country is built on it :huh:
Latest changes to the Road Traffic No 2 Act 2013
The new learner 7 points thing seems weird to me. Penalising people for not knowing better rather than penalising people who should know better seems backwards.
Can't argue with the seatbelt or mobile phones. Can't really argue with the speeding either but feel I should ;)
RE: Latest changes to the Road Traffic No 2 Act 2013
Its just very annoying, I have to hide the fact I do it yet the people who are enforcing these changes openly drive round abusing it.
it just gives you a feeling of resentment towards the ones you see doing it, and then contributes to the feeling of not caring about doing it (providing im not caught)
On another angle I'd actually love to see the statistics of how many Guards have penalty points.
Once again I'm not Garda bashing, you get people taking advantage in every walks of life, but I just feel that the frequency I see Guards driving while on the phone is a bit much, and I wonder is there a feeling among them thats its ok for them to do it, is there some loophole that Guards can use their phones while driving for certain circumstances?? If their is well their really milking it
RE: Latest changes to the Road Traffic No 2 Act 2013
Yes guards on duty are allowed to use their mobile while driving
RE: Latest changes to the Road Traffic No 2 Act 2013
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Originally Posted by Remote
Its just very annoying, I have to hide the fact I do it yet the people who are enforcing these changes openly drive round abusing it.
it just gives you a feeling of resentment towards the ones you see doing it, and then contributes to the feeling of not caring about doing it (providing im not caught)
On another angle I'd actually love to see the statistics of how many Guards have penalty points.
Once again I'm not Garda bashing, you get people taking advantage in every walks of life, but I just feel that the frequency I see Guards driving while on the phone is a bit much, and I wonder is there a feeling among them thats its ok for them to do it, is there some loophole that Guards can use their phones while driving for certain circumstances?? If their is well their really milking it
Why do you have to hide the fact you do it, or more important, why do it? A Bluetooth headset is cheap so there is really no excuse
RE: Latest changes to the Road Traffic No 2 Act 2013
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Originally Posted by ciars
Other offences such as non-display of an NCT certificate, which at present involve a Court appearance, will attract 2 points on payment of fixed charge.
I presume this is for non display and non display of valid NCT. If this is a case where penalty points are forced upon the driver without valid NCT in a case where an individual is dealing with an incompetent service by being put on a massive unacceptable 3 months waiting lists for a test then this is an absolute JOKE. Especially when they knew that an influx of demand for NCT testing will be inevitable after the introduction of yearly NCT for vehicles aged 10 years or older.
RE: Latest changes to the Road Traffic No 2 Act 2013
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Originally Posted by Cisk
The non-display of NCT cert, does that mean cars with no NCT at all or just for not having the NCT disc in the window similar to the non display of tax disc penalty?
If its for having no NCT at all its actually a reduction imo, if i was the type to not bother with NCT i would be more willing to risk it with a 2 points and fixed charge fine rather than the previous court appearance and 5 points upon conviction.
Speaking to a Garda that I know it seems there is a bit of reluctance to hit someone with a €1,000 & 5 points for no NCT. A lot of Guards feel that it is too harsh a penalty to hit someone with, especially given the potential for just plain absenct mindedness. With a lower penalty all round I would expect that they will begin to hand them out more frequently.
RE: Latest changes to the Road Traffic No 2 Act 2013
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Originally Posted by Gar
Yes guards on duty are allowed to use their mobile while driving
Are they only allowed use it for specific police business??
Or does the driver training they receive cover driving while using a phone??
Curious
RE: Latest changes to the Road Traffic No 2 Act 2013
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Originally Posted by gn3dr
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Originally Posted by Remote
Its just very annoying, I have to hide the fact I do it yet the people who are enforcing these changes openly drive round abusing it.
it just gives you a feeling of resentment towards the ones you see doing it, and then contributes to the feeling of not caring about doing it (providing im not caught)
On another angle I'd actually love to see the statistics of how many Guards have penalty points.
Once again I'm not Garda bashing, you get people taking advantage in every walks of life, but I just feel that the frequency I see Guards driving while on the phone is a bit much, and I wonder is there a feeling among them thats its ok for them to do it, is there some loophole that Guards can use their phones while driving for certain circumstances?? If their is well their really milking it
Why do you have to hide the fact you do it, or more important, why do it? A Bluetooth headset is cheap so there is really no excuse
Hide the fact I do it because I don't want points
Do it because sometimes I need to use my phone, sometimes business sometimes pleasure
Don't have oem Bluetooth in car, don't really like the idea of putting aftermarket one in
I suppose I could make the same argument for the Garda cars............
I'm not trying to stir up things, I genuinely just find it hard to take that law seriously when the people enforcing it can just keep doing it.
