E39 suspension refresh

As my car is old and done 142000 miles, it is time for suspension refresh.

Some of the parts have been replaced over time, but most is original. So plan is to replace most of it. Only front upper control arms will remain old, as i replaced them about 10000 miles ago. And i am not sure about eibach anti roll bar kit yet.

I made up a list of some sort. I have added prices and places where i was planning to buy. If anyone has some recommendations, please let me know.

So here we go

REAR


33532229697 bump stop rear m-tech x2 BMW €20.54 each -- bought

33521091710 shock top mount x2 c3bmw - €33 each -- bought

33521092072 shock bolt x2 BMW €5.77 each -- bought

33526773882 top nut x2 BMW €1.37 each -- bought

07119904295 top mount nut x6 BMW €0.39 each -- bought

33531091924 upper spring pad x2 BMW €4.61 each -- bought

33531133671 lower spring pad x2 BMW €7.58 each -- bought

31331137932 bump stop cover x2 BMW €3.43 each -- bought

07119904295 anti roll bar nut x2 BMW €0.39 each -- bought

33551092295 anti roll bar bolt x2 BMW €1.87 each

33551095532 anti roll bar drop link x2 Lemförder mister-auto €14 each -- bought

33326767748 ball joint x2 myele c3bmw - €33 each -- bought

33321091687 ball joint snap ring x2 BMW €2.60 each -- bought

33326770749 integral link x2 Lemförder mister-auto €21 each -- bought

33321092870 integral link bolt x2 BMW €8.89 each -- bought

33326760383 integral link nut x2 BMW €5.68 each -- bought

33326763463 upper integral link bolt x2 BMW €4.99 each -- bought

33326777424 guide link x2 - Lemförder mister-auto €103 each -- bought

33306760591 guide link bolt x2 BMW €4.88 each -- bought

33326767831 wishbone left x1 Lemförder mister-auto €96 -- bought

33326767832 wishbone right x1 Lemförder mister-auto €96 -- bought

33321091058 wishbone bolt x2 BMW €6.77 each -- bought


FRONT



31306779823 shock bolt x2 BMW €4.78 each -- bought

33326760374 shock nut BMW x2 €3.47 each -- bought

31336752735 top mount x2 c3bmw €34 each -- bought

31331091868 rubber boot x2 BMW €7.83 each -- bought

31331091867 upper spring pad x2 BMW €3.45 each -- bought

31331096664 lower spring pad x2 BMW €4.26 each -- bought

31331138814 bump stop x2 BMW €17.84 each -- bought

07119904295 top mount nuts x6 BMW €0.39 each -- bought

31331110196 collar x2 BMW €1.97 each -- bought

31336776760 washer x2 BMW €1.82 each -- bought

31106774714 top nut x2 BMW €1.62 each -- bought

31121094233 left lower control arm x1 mister-auto lemförder €92.45 -- bought

31121094234 right lower control arm x1 mister-auto lemförder €92.45 -- bought

31306779823 lower control arm bolt x2 BMW €4.80 each

33326760668 lower control arm nut x2 BMW €1.23 each -- bought

31351092141 arb mount bolt x2 * BMW €1.81 each -- bought

07119904295 arb nut x2 * BMW €0.39 each -- bought

31351095661 left arb drop link x1 mister-auto Lemförder €17.60 -- bought

31351095662 right arb drop link x1 mister-auto Lemförder €17.60 -- bought



Shock absorbers x4 Sachs Advantage ebay.de €549.80 (incl. delivery) -- bought

Eibach pro kit springs ebay.de - €165 (incl delivery) --- Bought

Eibach anti roll bar kit ebay.de - €367.44 (incl. delivery) --- Bought




edit: 33311091422 subframe bushes x4 Lemförder mister-auto €28 each -- bought

32111094673 left track rod x1 Lemförder mister-auto €63.54 -- bought

32111094674 right track rod x1 Lemförder mister-auto €63.54 -- bought

32131094100 strap x2 BMW €2.28 each -- bought

32111137132 strap x2 BMW €2.23 each -- bought

32131092876 gaiter x2 Febi mister-auto €4 -- bought

22116754608 engine mounts x2 micksgarage Febi €47.18 each -- bought

New total then €2594.34 + 32 shipping



If anyone has ideas, where do get them cheaper, please let me know.

Might as well do the sub frame bushes while you're at it

Eibach prokit 150 euro delivered to door from ebay.de ;-)

Save yourself 87e

May aswell do complete track rods is well while in there and as dave suggests above definitely worth doing

Be worth asking keanes for a quote is well on everything bar the shocks they might be able to give +15% off as its a big order

get a quote from super4,cab is sound and with such a big order he probably beat them prices and save you a fortune..so much money..

Thanks Dave and Gar.

Added them to the list.

I will send an email to Frank Keane and see what they will offer me.

I will keep the list updated with prices, if i find better ones. It will help me to keep track where to buy and what and hopefully, if someone plans an upgrade themselves, it would serve as some sort of guide price.

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get a quote from super4,cab is sound and with such a big order he probably beat them prices and save you a fortune..so much money..

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+1

And gentleman to speak with.

Eibach anti rollbar kit is in the plan now, as i just bought it. :D

Have you done the engine mounts? I got mine done at around that mileage and it improved the ride a lot.

If you're doing the engine mounts, which are next on my list, do the vacuum lines

Thanks kaveman. I will add engine mounts to the list

@Dave - Do you know what diameter vacuum lines are needed for engine mounts?

She must be a keeper :cool:

http://31.media.tumblr.com/2cab51627...f46jo1_500.gif

Can't see myself ever selling it :D

Fairplay thats a big investment. You must really love your e39.

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Thanks kaveman. I will add engine mounts to the list

@Dave - Do you know what diameter vacuum lines are needed for engine mounts?

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I don't know, I could find out which one fits my car but I would be concerned that they are different as I know the diesel and petrol mounts are different.

My intention is just to buy them from the dealer, they're bound to be buttons

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Originally Posted by Johnnyghia

Fairplay thats a big investment. You must really love your e39.

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Being a high miles petrol 3lt old car, the car is basically worthless in Irish market. So why not to keep it, it is a good car and this investment will keep it going for a long time. I am just hoping, that in 20 years time, i can show up in a meet with the same car still driving. :D

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Originally Posted by Dave

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Originally Posted by mcung13

Thanks kaveman. I will add engine mounts to the list

@Dave - Do you know what diameter vacuum lines are needed for engine mounts?

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I don't know, I could find out which one fits my car but I would be concerned that they are different as I know the diesel and petrol mounts are different.

My intention is just to buy them from the dealer, they're bound to be buttons

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I have whole bunch of different sizes of vacuum hoses in a box somewhere, it is probably easier to pop one off and see what fits.

All parts bought. Waiting for delivery now.

Postmans back will broke delivering this one [emoji1]

I'm thinking of doing something similar in the next month where did you buy it all from?

In the first post, i have after each item where it was bought and how much it costs. If there is only BMW after the item, it means from main dealer.
In summary, items were from BMW dealer, ebay.de, www.c3bmw.co.uk, www.mister-auto.ie and www.micksgarage.ie.

Cheers, did you buy off any particular seller on ebay.de?

I was just looking for cheapest seller with good feedback.
I used http://stores.ebay.ie/AZE-Hammelburg-Shop?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 for anti roll bar.
http://stores.ebay.ie/hs-autoteile?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 for springs
and http://stores.ebay.ie/brands4cars?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 for shocks.

It's nearly all here now. Only one trackrod is missing.
Now i need to find time and get tools i need to fit it all. :D

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-d...edium%2529.jpg

Saweet e39 xmas [emoji1][emoji41]

What size are the roll bars ? What bushings do you use with them

Anti roll bars are 27 mm front and 18 mm rear from Eibach. Bushes came in the kit.

Small update then.
Replaced subframe bushes today. It's easy enough with the right tool.
Also i left the bushes into freezer overnight.

Old bushes looked not too bad when i took them out. 142k miles on them.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-w...ustom%2529.JPG

Tool i used. Tool itself is quite expensive and i only used it this one time.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-E...ustom%2529.JPG

Got a bit more done. Rear anti rollbar, shocks and upper control arms are out.
Shocks and top mounts were long gone, same goes for the arb drop links.
Arb bushes were showing signs of wear also.
Both control arms are looking ok.
Springs are rusty.
Couple of pics then.

Sport vs. eibach arb
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-K...ustom%2529.JPG

mtech II vs Eibach pro kit springs. They have about the same thickness, but eibach has more coils and is slightly longer. I wonder, will this reflect in ride hight when fitted?
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-y...ustom%2529.JPG

mtech II vs. Sachs advantage shock. They look identical, only difference i noticed was, that original shock had 16mm top nut, but Sachs has 17mm.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-N...ustom%2529.JPG

Crack in the top mount.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7...ustom%2529.JPG

Interesting on the spring looks like it will higher it up just a fraction

Don't forget that the older springs will have fatigued. Mine looked like it was mocking an x5 when I had my springs first fitted but it settled nicely.

True was just thinking that after i posted the others have had 1500kg sitting on them for 12 years , my eibachs didnt fully settle until after about a month

The rear should be pretty much identical to factory ride height

What is the drop all round on msport 2 suspension dave ? Is it 15mm all round

Yup, 15mm all round. It's the front that you'll notice the big difference with the eibachs.

I was starting to worry, that i am turning the car into x5 :D

All done now.

On the front. Shocks were gone, arb links were gone too and one ball joint.
Engine mounts looked tired.

Last item was front arb.
old vs. new.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-K...ustom%2529.JPG

and finally.

Everything old vs. new.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-n...ustom%2529.JPGhttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-d...edium%2529.jpg

Is it tall? [emoji1]

No. It is nearly the same as before. Front is maybe slightly lower.

I have no arch liners in front. There is some rust that needs to be addressed.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/4L...vk0k=w720-h960https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0...ustom%2529.JPG

Say its great to drive now. Nice job and a lovely car to match the work :cool:

I went for quick drive, it is day and night, compared what it was before.
I need to get it tracked now, steering wheel is way off center. :D

Yours is lower than mine. Looks great!

Looking very nice indeed id say it feels a 100 times better [emoji41]

Front shock looks well bust , its great to see old by new is well

Can't wait to do this to the e60 and get her down to m sport height. Good work.