Garda now actively siezing cars with welded diffs!
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Garda now actively siezing cars with welded diffs!
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Sure thats just Healy with a Garda fleece on! :D
Have to laugh at the bellends on FB, 'Go catch real criminals' 'Cars with welded diffs are minded better than 90% of normal cars'
There's 1 reason you weld a diff, To do buns and rings lawd.
Perfectly fine on private land but not acceptable IMHO on the road.
Give it another few months and we'll get the annual freshly welded shitheaps on DoneDeal for the rally of the lakes or Donegal rally.
There's a few welders on here. Wonder what they think of this?
It's the limited cornering abilities that I fear post weld. It'll always stir debate, but it's interesting to see the Gardai stepping in and actively pursuing such cars. I am not up on this exact case, but I'd hazard a guess that the owner was pulled in for something completely different and he/she gave the Gardai reason to go to town on checking the car over.
A lot of very intelligent individuals commenting on the facebook page [emoji15] fucking idiots
https://m.facebook.com/angardasiochana/photos/a.10152771969758001.1073742252.167613868000/10152771969823001/?type=1&source=46&refid=17
Checkpoint was set up outside a legal event over the weekend and the car was lifted for no NCT along with a load of other cars, 12 or 13 I think and then got a PSV check. The owner is facing legal issues so let's not drop names ;-)
Possibly ask to pull in and the inner wheel started to hop as they are known to do. It doesn't look like a BMW, I could be wrong but maybe Altezza? Either way welded diffs enhance understeer just as well as over-steer so in my opinion extremely dangerous.
I didnt know it was against the law to weld a diff not something i would be into for a daily driver anyways if its not broke dont weld it [emoji53]
It's knowingly defecting the carQuote:
Originally Posted by lelo
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Every day is a school day [emoji2]Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
Except friday and saturday thats for killing brain cells with beer [emoji1]Quote:
Originally Posted by lelo
the car in the photo is an s15 , I've driven with welded diff in cars and tbh in the dry they are fine , but parking, the wet and roundabouts are a nightmare , great bit of craic but defiantly not on a public road I've seen welded diffs crap themselves when driving normally as well, if you want an lsd get a 2-way , or re-shim ,
It was up the road from where I used to live but beforehand and afterwards most of the tool bags where out around acting the arsehole in the local area. I'm sure then Joe Soap was onto the boys in blue asking them to do something.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRev
Welded diffs are lethal, end of story. Anyone than thinks there fine are talking through there hole. Unfortunately the person who got pulled will be made an example of I think. Also, don't think there would have been an issue if they had a full window ;)
I'd imagine they were, it's a major part of why I dis-associated myself with that "scene" a few years agoQuote:
Originally Posted by HealyC
I'm not arguing for or against a welded diff, I've done it myself in the past, very much enjoyed it, I wouldnt again, but we were all young once.Quote:
Originally Posted by HealyC
I've seen loads of people telling stories on Facebook as to why this particular car was taken in the past few days and merely wanted to try and help to keep the owners name away from the different stories as there is a legal case pending.
This thread will be moderated as is always the case. But if it's so easy to see posts on an open FB thread from a quick Google search of the Garda tweet etc well then the car owner in question should really clean up their page/comments on other pages IMO to protect their legal case(s).
Was it a she by any chance no :) welded are okish but quite dangerous most of the time, it's the clowns that drive them and there ball a shit twincams on every crossroad across the land. Can you imagine the fun they'd have up around Donega catching yuppies !! I wasn't sure if they wear illegal as such as cars will pass an nct like that, what about the spool boys or a very tight 2way I wonder even a 1.5 can be tricky at times. I wouldn't use a welder only ever used lsds but have driven quite a few I wouldn't advise most
they say you won't pass an nct with a welder but i know of an e36 that passed in december in cork with a welded diff and didn't bribe the tester etc, but my cousins golf failed on lowering springs (the tester said they didn't know if they were cut or not )
fitting welded diff in Barts mini :hehe!:Quote:
Originally Posted by Curran
Was it a pretty cool NON-turbo s15 with a front mount intercooler??:tounge::hehe!:
Im not going to argue for or against, but whats the difference between a welded diff and a shimmed up 2 way lsd? not terribly a whole lot.
As for shit handling and being dangerous on the road, the dirt cheap, half plastic tires that joe soap puts on his car are far more dangerous than a locked diff.
Bit of a generalisation there no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hobbs
Id say if your popping a welded diff in nankangs or landsails are standard considering they only go round in circles
What's the difference? One is a mechanical device designed to enhance a cars road holding ability and the other is a blob of molten metal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hobbs
As for Joe Soaps tyres? I don't know where that argument belongs here but I can't imagine the differs are using the very best themselves
Misread what I wrote? A 'shimmed up' lsd. you can shim them up until they're nearly locked if you really want to.
Im not condoning welded diffs at all, but a lot of people seem to jump on the bandwagon with them being dangerous etc.(whether thats from personal experience or 2nd hand information, I don't know) but no-one seems to say anything about the dirt cheap crappy tires on the market that are useless on the road, which is way more dangerous imo.
Drove a 530d the other week(on nearly new chinese-y tires) that scared the crap out of me, was all over the shop, understeering everywhere.(every bush was 100%)Hense, my comment about the tires.
Also I might add what about a sti? You can lock all diffs manually in those as standard, they illegal now ?
Came from factory like that? Not illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford 2
If the STi uses a welder then yeah! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford 2
Is the argument against locked diffs or is it a case of just welded ? They both act the same
http://www.bmw-driver.net/forum/showthread.php?t=96785
Also should be a good read if it has the legs http://www.driftireland.com/forum/showthread.php?44653-Gardai-seizing-cars-PSV-welded-diffs-danger-etc-Discuss
Quote (Was it a she by any chance no :) welded are okish but quite dangerous most of the time, it's the clowns that drive them and there ball a s*** twincams on every crossroad across the land. Can you imagine the fun they'd have up around Donega catching yuppies !! I wasn't sure if they wear illegal as such as cars will pass an nct like that, what about the spool boys or a very tight 2way I wonder even a 1.5 can be tricky at times. I wouldn't use a welder only ever used lsds but have driven quite a few I wouldn't advise most)
Theres no twincams with welded diffs.they come standard with a lsd like a m3, m5 or any other sports car.and aftermarket lsds are readily available.ive had a few cars with welded diffs and to be honest they are a nightmare in the wet. I would never have one as a daily driver especially the embarrasment of parking.and I don't get people that have welded diffs in decent cars worth over a few grand. Imo its acceptable to have it in a car worth less than 1k thats used purely for goin to events like the one that was held.and alot of people cant bring the cars on a trailer or tow with all the new laws.so what are you supposed to do.if theres a full window the guards should let them through depending on the individual of course
No twincams with welded diffs ??? what rock you been living under :D
I bet this will be on Crime Call...
Eh I own a twincam the last 7years and know most of the twincams in the country and I assure there is not one with a welded diff.the only ones ive ever seen is drift ones with a sr20 engine and the back axle is changed to a vannette or liteace axle to handle the power and lsd are hard to come by for them
I had a welded diff before and drove fine dry or wet. Noticably different handling wise to the viscous LSD that was in it but still plenty capable of being driven in a normal manner. It's about the driver not the car. An M5 is more dangerous than a welded diff but if you drive it normally it'll be fine.
Not that I think they're ideal, in some cases it makes sense where an LSD isn't available and the cars only for messing but I wouldn't like 1 daily. Some people on here on very high horses being very stereotypical :surprised:
What a ridiculous statement, you understand the dynamics of a car driving around a corner right?Quote:
Originally Posted by mk2glenn
There is no situation where it makes sense in a road environment.
Someone who welds a diff is someone who is too cheap to fit the proper equipment in their car, if they're too cheap for a diff you can bet that ethos will be seen throughout the car but the main point will be tyres, you didn't weld your diff for grip.
So you have a car that doesn't want to go around a corner with tyres that don't want to stick to the road, with someone who is arrogant enough to think it is safe, it's a recipe for disaster and it will be an innocent third party minding their own business who pays the price.
A point well made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
The fastest cars both around the ring and pikes peak had welded diffs ;) let's keep this pot going
Sure, but they were on closed tracks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford 2
Really, the Radical Sr8 has a welded diff?? that is excellent news.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford 2
As for the pikes peak car I'd imagine it's a rally car of some sort with probably an active locking diff? I'm no engineer but I would say that is slightly different.
Well spool and non production ;)