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Here's an interesting one from Boards, (NOT ME!!)
http://i.imgur.com/h2cVRKj.png
Accident occurred between Red and Blue. The yellow line is where the Red wanted to exit.
Now it seems clear to me, Red driver is 100% at fault but not everyone agrees.
Thoughts on here?
Red driver clearly at fault
Makes for interesting reading,
http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057571656/1
One of the many many posts on there,
"But the rules of the road state left hand lane for exits 1 and 2, So OP (Red car) was correct"
Both f*cked up in my opinion, blue should have indicated and changed to the outer lane at about the 20-25 past mark of the image. Red entered the roundabout in the wrong lane and should be on the inner circle and should have indicated and changed lane after the turn
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Nah - it doesn't. Clearly specifies that that its doesn't apply past 12 O'Clock.Quote:
Originally Posted by RossYB
The only interesting thing in that thread is how many idiots seem to be on our roads, and boards.ie
There's a joint liability in my opinion. Red was in the wrong lane for the exit he intended to take. Blue is in a position that there were two lanes in to roundabout, on the roundabout and two lanes out so in principle he was making a valid maneuver (although, in my opinion it would have been more correct to be in the left lane coming on to, on the roundabout and exiting the roundabout, or to have moved from right lane to left lane on the roundabout before exiting), but was not sufficiently road aware of Red.
Primary negligence on the part of Red, with contributory negligence from Blue - I'd give it 75%/25% Red/Blue for a split, or 100% Red for a single liability.
I can't believe the waffle on that forum, people should step back for a moment, forget what they do and don't know about roundabouts and look at them with some logic. Treat any of those turns like they were separate little junctions- would you be in a lane to go straight if you intend taking a left or be in the lane for making the left if you fancy going straight?
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finally a proper way of putting it. half this country can't use roundaboutsQuote:
Originally Posted by FunkySeeFunkyDoo
I have a few of these 3 exit roundabouts on my daily drive and this type of fcukwittery occurs regularly.
My view with these is that the outside lane should be used when taking the first exit.
The inside lane is for second and third exits and you're entitled to stay there if those exits are dual lane, like this example. If not, move into the outside lane after passing the first exit.
I'd put 75/25 blame on red and blue here.
I'd put the blame on the council. There seems to be no road markings.
Red in wrong lane. No question about it.
People on roundabouts drive me mad lately,the amount that dont know how to use them is unbelievable and the amount that dont indicate at all when going right around it drives me nuts,they must expect you to read there mind.and its causing extra traffic build up because people are hesitating more at entry and are waiting until there is no cars on the roundabout to proceed.
In this case i would say the red is clearly in the wrong as if your going right on a roundabout its good practice to be in the right lane.although from looking at the pic i can see where there would be confusion, if you look at the yellow section there is two lanes there,so in this roundabout where is the need for them two lanes on that section as there is no 4th exit on the right hand side of the pic. Im assuming this is because the roundabouts are all built to a certain spec and could be there to allow the possibility of a 4th exit?
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