Lots of details of course! lol :rolleyes:
Looking forward to seeing it though as there will be an M2 in the future. :cool:
http://youtu.be/T8BdivtdT5M
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Lots of details of course! lol :rolleyes:
Looking forward to seeing it though as there will be an M2 in the future. :cool:
http://youtu.be/T8BdivtdT5M
So thats 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and 8 how long before we see the 9,10,11 series
Its the same number of models its just made more simple to tell them apart for stupid people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gar
I'm sure having a 3 Series that had 4 seats, or 4 doors or a big boot or no roof confused many.........
Really ?? How could you be confused if a 3 series is a coupe a wagon or a saloon it was still an unmistakable 3 series if anything its more confusing now especially with the new rear badges that generally count nothing toward cc's anymoreQuote:
Originally Posted by DoktorB
If they have the 4 series as the 3 series coupe does the touring and saloon still fall under the 3 series or is the touring now the 3.5 series :D
Also what is the 2 series going to be is it a 1 series coupe or just a smaller 4 series :huh::D
More like badge virtually identical cars as being different to get stupid people to part with extra cash!Quote:
Originally Posted by DoktorB
Dont like the wheels! :P :D
They need to rethink the variant naming i.e. 328i and the likes just ain't 328's as we used to know them :(Quote:
Originally Posted by DoktorB
I'm sad to say I'm in agreement.Quote:
Originally Posted by kdevitt
What I meant by my comment is that the models already exist, except now they are being given their own model number such as the 1 Series coupe becoming the new 2 Series.Quote:
Originally Posted by kdevitt
I dont see how you can say they are identical cars. They may well share the same floor pans and mechanicals but how they are used by the customer and what they can do for the end user is completely different.
For example, the uses of a coupe compared to a hatch back are worlds apart.
And technically, they are just applying the terminology of other models across the entire range as a 6 series has always been a 5 series coupe (Similar floor pan, mechanicals etc etc) so it makes perfect sense I'm sure to a German marketing Guru that all the models should reflect this.
I don't think the 'usage' point is valid to be honest, but I doubt we're going to end up agreeing on this anyway :) The core use of a 3 series touring versus a 3 series saloon is as different as the use of a 3 series saloon versus a 3 (4) series coupe. Speaking personally, the difference between a saloon and coupe is looks alone - there is very little extra practicality afforded by a saloon for me - so the way the car would be used is identical. I use my Golf GTi for the exact same things as my E30, or my M3 - no difference.
As you said yourself, the models already exist - but BMW have very clearly tried to push the 4 series as being an all new offering, which to me, is patronising to their client base, its a 2 door 3 series really. I've no great issue with the rebranding per se, but I really think its a stretch to say it was needed before of customer confusion.
Although Audi even seem to have lost track of their version of this even nr = saloon, odd nr = coupe branding lark with the A5 getting a 4 door and 2 door version.
I suppose it amounts to what the competitors are doing.
At the end of the day its BMW's obligation to seek new customers as well as holding on to the ones they already have.
So if Audi and Mercedes have a different model for every day of the year then BMW has to do the same because people used to other brands will look for the equivalent BMW to the car they already have.
Its quite shocking how little "non car people" know of cars, brands and models etc. So it would be raise a question to one of these people as to why a 3 Series Coupe isnt called something different from a 3 series saloon since thier Audi A5 has a different name to the Audi A4 on which it is based.
I dunno.
All I do know is that I am waiting with baited breath to see and drive the M2 when it comes. :cool:
Not too sure anbout the rear. :huh:
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=28716
http://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/2...2Series_03.jpg
yea and the exhaust tips were'nt much better:D:D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Curran
Source: http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=903957
http://www.2addicts.com/goodiesforyo...95-highRes.jpg
http://youtu.be/TN9vsEZ1wTY
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/attac...6&d=1382651171
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/attac...7&d=1382651171
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/attac...8&d=1382651171
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/attac...9&d=1382651171
On what low gravity planet did the E46 M3 ever get to 60 in sub 5 seconds???? lol :huh:
The M235i needs bigger arches, a more aggressive bonnet, some identifier that's not a shitty ///M badge on the sides. They're losing their cosmetic touch
For me thats part of the attraction of the M Performance cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by TouchingVirus
You need to remember they have to leave room for menouvre for the full blown M cars.
Not into that at all..
Hmmmmm
I'm warming to it.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10153356965515043
http://youtu.be/gqdYsMTIJk8
Never liked 1 series although the 1M was alright looking. This is a rather handsome little brute :)
Was up at the launch of the 2 Series and 4 Series Convertible on Saturday at JKC BMW Coleraine.
4 Series vert is might purdy! :cool:
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps0db7cfde.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps35b28d16.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps096131cc.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps7eb8c6dc.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...psfb3d4e7c.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps56ac376a.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps0ba969af.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...psee598db0.jpg
Serious want for a M235i! Will the Irish model get an LSD as an option?
It's the only car that replaced the Dakar M3 as my desktop background :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ketron
Would be really bad form of BMW to not include an LSD as standard on an M235i !
Remember reading it was to have one as an option, just don't see it on BMW Irelands car configurator, will be awhile yet before I can afford to shell out 70k on a car ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter-E36