islamic religion in Britain

After seeing a discussion regarding mosques on a uk forum earlier and watching a documentary on bbc1 tonight regarding extreme islamist's in the uk ( shocking stuff they have a big problem)

I went to look up the muslim population over there and stumbled across this I recall reading it in a paper or online last year have a read of it http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4112/islamization-britain

Iv never really bit into the whole religion thing yes im Catholic and I go to funerals ,communions, christenings etc but personally I believe religion has been the cause an enormous amount of pain and grief on humanity throughout its existence so I just want it clear I personally couldn't give a shite if your a catholic protestant jew muslim or whatever it makes no odds to me.

Watching the program tonight bbc highlighted a lot of former gangsters were now being recruited inside prison and picked up upon release by "islamic brothers" one guy had just served a 6 yr sentence got straight out and went to an offo in london with other islamist extremists to protest about alcohol being sold they dont want it sold in "there neighbourhood"

Another two ex jailbirds now supposedly religious believers standing outside a mosque telling the ordinary english public to get off the road and dont walk past the mosque that its there holy ground they dont deserve to walk past it

It really really pissed me off they way they seem to think they can just take over the country and claim it as there own they believe drink should not be sold and want there own laws put in place as well as building mosques like mad then theres the terrorist faction of the group I won't even go into that

Id day the brits grandparents who fought in ww2 now would be turning in their graves if they saw what was going on

Im not English and I believe whoever wants to come into a country and make it a home has the right to do so (take the pakistani's they integrated very successfully) what I don't fucking agree with is people that come in and demand and expect everything to change basically to make it into a smaller clone of there own country they have london pretty much wrapped up at this stage

The police and mi5 id say are under huge pressure trying to monitor terrorists on there homeland now and keep a lid on everything imo its a dangerous time for the brits and something will pop over the next decade we all know how much hatred a percentage of muslims have for western countries yet they come over and live amongst them makes no sense to me these so called extremists should be deported immediately with no option for re-entry into Europe or the uk

Anyway just needed to get that off my chest as it slightly alarms me as unfortunately we're usually not far behind the uk and I for one do not and would not want ireland to follow a similar path

The world has become far to small

Totally agree Gar, Government agencies can't pussy foot around the issue and need to take a harder stance on it. Integrate or GTFO.

Your not the only one john iv had pm's regarding it is well and people feel the exact same but would rather not post publicly

It appears the uk government is so afraid of being labeled racist or upsetting them that they sit back and do nothing

Yet these are unbelievably racist and hate the entire western world it will become am epedemic someday and they will really be in shit then

Yep, and IMO it's not even slightly racist it just comes down to (a lack of?) mutual respect. People should not be afraid to post their opinions.

Why is the word J e w censored??

[emoji1][emoji1] no idea just noticed it myself

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I guess in case it it might be used in a derogatory sense like it was on driver?

Cant imagine the extremists on the anti alcohol band wagon getting on too well over here...... surely they know better

Agree and not afraid to say it.
It's not racist to want to protect your homeland.

I would say there would be a tightening of borders all across europe soon enough. It annoys me the easy travel inside europe. Again no problem with people coming to another country but it's another country not their own the local ways should be observed. People should intergrate and not treat it as an extension of their own country.

Google islam/muslim populations in europe some interesting reading. :wink:

The censorship of Jew is only fuelling its use as a derogrative term.

I personally believe live and let live.

I try to look at things objectively but i must admit I find it hard to know where the line is with things like this.

I currently live in Szeged in Hungary which is a university town and travel home for Xmas and summer etc . There is a huge Islamic influence here and tbh it's just as bad as the uk. They have opened shisha bars where honestly they treat you like shit if your not Muslim and also they insist on praying 5 times a day during exam periods and make a big deal if not let out during an exam while the rest have to stay in (all I ever see them do is go for fag breaks or they use it as an excuse to cheat during exams ) tbh I'm not tarring them all with the same brush but they do think they own the place. I'm not majorly religious myself but I'm a firm believer of when in rome do as the roman do. If I was to go to there hometown and drink I would not be let away with it . Rant over ahhaha

the above is what really irritates me they seem to look for two different sets of rules , they expect everyone to play by the islamic rules and if not treat people like shit but!! if you asked them to follow the your rules they kick up a fuss unbelievable and i blame the people in charge

if they cant take an exam without having to pray then tough shit dont sit the exam, and you hit the nail on the head imagine going to there local shop and demanding they sell alcohol i wonder how far you would get , its has striking similaritys to a cult imo

how do you find the women are treated there they really seem to be in the worst position ?

I'm not tarring all with the same brush but they cheat on there fiancés / girlfriends very often (they get engaged young like 20 , 21 etc and in my opinion are not mature enough to understand what marriage is about) but if a women cheats they are called a sharmota (wrong spelling) and if they get a few slaps it's totally acceptable in there eyes .
For example one girl I knew very well as she was in the same medical Latin class as me wasn't allowed to have guys mobile numbers and wasn't allowed Facebook the fiancé are really controlling but she said this was normal AND didn't understand why everyone else thought it was weird

I suppose to be pragmatic about the situation it would also be fair to say that Islamic countries have had Western culture forced on them in recent times.

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I suppose to be pragmatic about the situation it would also be fair to say that Islamic countries have had Western culture forced on them in recent times.

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That is a very true point we are not exactly perfect as a culture either

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I suppose to be pragmatic about the situation it would also be fair to say that Islamic countries have had Western culture forced on them in recent times.

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good point, but if thats the case why on earth would you go and live in a western country then , i mean if they hate non muslims so much why live amongst them why not stay back home in predominatly muslim areas

i just dont understand why these radicals who absolutely despise the evil westerners want to go and live in western countrys deportation is the key here the minute they are spotted grab them and get them out dont bother giving them 2 year sentences as they just recruit more members whilst in prison

with regards to the few slaps for the wife if thats all that they got they would be lucky very lucky http://www.investigateislam.com/my_life_as_muslim_women.htm

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I suppose to be pragmatic about the situation it would also be fair to say that Islamic countries have had Western culture forced on them in recent times.

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good point, but if thats the case why on earth would you go and live in a western country then , i mean if they hate non muslims so much why live amongst them why not stay back home in predominatly muslim areas

i just dont understand why these radicals who absolutely despise the evil westerners want to go and live in western countrys deportation is the key here the minute they are spotted grab them and get them out dont bother giving them 2 year sentences as they just recruit more members whilst in prison

with regards to the few slaps for the wife if thats all that they got they would be lucky very lucky

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Honestly, I feel this may be as simple as why does anyone leave their country of origin. Why do we have people hopping on a plane to Oz to be abused for acting Irish?

for work and money totally different, the people i watched on the bbc doc last night were not in the uk to work they were on welfare so they could be full time recruiters of new members and if they were not recruiting they were protesting

I wouldn't leave if I was from there Iran (predominately Islamic ) has 5c a litre petrol and same as Egypt hahah that's bad I'll move for cheap petrol ahahah

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for work and money totally different, the people i watched on the bbc doc last night were not in the uk to work they were on welfare so they could be full time recruiters of new members and if they were not recruiting they were protesting

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England is renowned as a welfare state. I do take your point, I did not see the documentary last night I'm afraid so I'm not able to give an informed answer. I would have assumptions but I think that would be unfair to say.

i cant find the doc from last night but this article published in the paper covers the jist of it http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1161855/Britons-HATE-Britain-The-Muslim-extremists-hell-bent-segregation-integration.html it is however the daily mail so take it with a pinch of salt

this documentary covers both sides of the argument better its very good if you have the time this evening give it a watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhQkIFdEKU0 you will see that ordinary decent muslims even hate them , they went to a completely neutral country like canada and try to cause absolute mayhem

Heads up: the video has very short graphic scenes of women being stoned

Extremists in any religion should never be taken as a fair representation of the entire organisation. Islam is a religion of peace but the Quran is taken hugely out of context by some, much akin to how the likes of the Westboro Baptists purposely mis-interpret the Christian bible for their own gain.

I can't quiet understand it my self,why someone would leave their home and live in another country and impose their culture on the host country. Surly if their original country was that good why leave in the first place. When integrating into a new society you should live by the host countries customs and contribute to society as a whole given that you chose to live there in the first place. It's gone so wrong in England that Christmas is banned in certain English burroughs.
There is a speech by an Australian politician who welcomes all nationalities, but clarifies while you live in Australia, accept Australian values if you don't like it f##" off. It's in relation to religious pictures in schools which were offensive to non Christians.
I have worked in foreign countries and respect all their traditions and customs whether I agree/understand them or not.I have watched Muslim religious tv and if I were to apply that logic I could find it deeply offensive as a Christian but should I impose my views no way.
Rant over

Program on rte 1 now "my brother the islamist"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xwPVgRaROA&sns=em

BILLY CONNOLY...fuck religion!!!
He's right too... To much bullshit.

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Yeah but you see that's only a very slim view on a much wider scope they have on minorities eg they're anti gay laws etc. Which are horrible.