E92 335i / Late E46 M3 possibly..

I'm looking for a car to hop in and drive, must not need anything done now or in the foreseeable future, I plan to hold on to it for a while so LOW MILEAGE is essential and warranty is a major bonus.

E92: Sat Nav and Sunroof is all I ask for, I'm ok with the lack of anything else.

E46 M3: it must have the subframe sorted and evidence of the car generally being babied throughout its' life.

Budget is around 13k

This is pretty much exactly what I have in mind but it's sold unfortunately.

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/bmw/3-series/used-2007-bmw-3-series-335-i-spor-dublin-fpa-92714132312418470

This looks minty mint:cool::hehe!:

http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=114003

04 black/red 75k miles 13k
http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW-M3-M3-E46-2DR/201437226944316

04 individual cab 65k miles 12k

http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW-M3-SMG-INDIVIDUAL-CABRIOLET-ESTORIL-BLUE-GREY-LEATHER-HARD-SOFT-TOP-ONLY-64K-MILES-NEW-NCT-9-15/93914135541836360

06 335i 11k 65k miles
http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW-3-Series-335-TWIN-TURBO-M-SPORT-WITH-LOW-MILEAGE--Fresh-2yrs-NCT/201445228449820

05 SG M3 no mention of mileage though ,12k
http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/8067620

04 SG M3 <100K 12.5K
http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW-M3-M3/201441227607933

Low mile SG M3 in fermanagh 04 8.5k sterling
http://www.usedcarsni.com/13909969?show_all_photos=1

05 SG M3 80k 10k sterling N.I
http://www.usedcarsni.com/136870025


Few of pistonheads offerings under 85k miles and below £9k
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...e549ceaa06.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...3b974f8b6c.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...dccf4d2beb.jpg

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This looks minty mint:cool::hehe!:

http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=114003

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Stunning :cool: although I don't like replica anything on a car like that :p but vrt is €6218 so it would work out well over 20k vrt'd and taxed!

6k????? I thought vrt was less than 2k. Edit, didn't realise the wheels were reps


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Well sorted M3 is definitely what I'd be looking at...you just missed Ken's one by the look of it, now that is a stunning machine

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04 black/red 75k miles 13k


05 SG M3 no mention of mileage though ,12k
http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/8067620

04 SG M3 <100K 12.5K
http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW-M3-M3/201441227607933

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05 has 94k miles on it

That 04 has been for sale since Feb/March at least. Think Dennings (bodyshop) owns this.

Peter, I wouldn't get too hung up on a year. Always buy on condition, especially for M's!

Ken's M3 is the car for you, if the buyer falls through.

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04 black/red 75k miles 13k
http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW-M3-M3-E46-2DR/201437226944316

04 individual cab 65k miles 12k

http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW-M3-SMG-INDIVIDUAL-CABRIOLET-ESTORIL-BLUE-GREY-LEATHER-HARD-SOFT-TOP-ONLY-64K-MILES-NEW-NCT-9-15/93914135541836360

06 335i 11k 65k miles
http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW-3-Series-335-TWIN-TURBO-M-SPORT-WITH-LOW-MILEAGE--Fresh-2yrs-NCT/201445228449820

05 SG M3 no mention of mileage though ,12k
http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/8067620

04 SG M3 <100K 12.5K
http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW-M3-M3/201441227607933

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Saw the Grey 335i alright.

I like the Black/Red 04 Coupe :cool:

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04 black/red 75k miles 13k
http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW-M3-M3-E46-2DR/201437226944316

04 individual cab 65k miles 12k

http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW-M3-SMG-INDIVIDUAL-CABRIOLET-ESTORIL-BLUE-GREY-LEATHER-HARD-SOFT-TOP-ONLY-64K-MILES-NEW-NCT-9-15/93914135541836360

06 335i 11k 65k miles
http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW-3-Series-335-TWIN-TURBO-M-SPORT-WITH-LOW-MILEAGE--Fresh-2yrs-NCT/201445228449820

05 SG M3 no mention of mileage though ,12k
http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/8067620

04 SG M3 <100K 12.5K
http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW-M3-M3/201441227607933

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Saw the Grey 335i alright.

I like the Black/Red 04 Coupe :cool:

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They are the two that stand out to me also, the 335i looks good plus at little over 10k a bit of a bargain ,the black M3 ticks all the box's is definitely worth a viewing

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6k????? I thought vrt was less than 2k. Edit, didn't realise the wheels were reps

6k is ridiculous isn't it just for VRT... :huh:

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Well sorted M3 is definitely what I'd be looking at...you just missed Ken's one by the look of it, now that is a stunning machine

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I would be quite happy with either to be honest Don :)

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04 black/red 75k miles 13k


05 SG M3 no mention of mileage though ,12k
http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/8067620

04 SG M3 <100K 12.5K
http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW-M3-M3/201441227607933

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05 has 94k miles on it

That 04 has been for sale since Feb/March at least. Think Dennings (bodyshop) owns this.

Peter, I wouldn't get too hung up on a year. Always buy on condition, especially for M's!

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I've genuinely never been someone who cared about the reg (and still don't) I'm just traumatised from the e36 and just don't want to get the usual "sure it's an old car" or "it has 100k what do you expect" lines everytime something goes wrong with it. There is no mechanics I trust nearby here and I don't want to be up and down to Cab every other week getting something done which won't be cheap on an M3... So that's why I'm looking for as new, and as low a mileage a car I can get as well as being well maintained.

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Ken's M3 is the car for you, if the buyer falls through.

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I certainly considered it :)

Did I miss something? What happened the e36?

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Did I miss something? What happened the e36?

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Nothing out of the usual Ger!

In my opinion and from what I have seen for sale regarding late e46 M3s then the mileage is working out for between a '04 - '06 ranging from 95k miles to 126k miles and are still commanding a price of 12.5 - 15k euro. Average miles on an e92 from '07-'08 you're looking at between 85k to 100k miles. You have already mentioned a low miler you were looking at sold on Saturday so your options are compromise on older model with higher mileage or sacrifice the sunroof and buy an average mile e92 and/or stump up the vrt to import one from UK with the mileage, spec, colour you desire. Bear in mind the road tax on an e46 M is 1809 as well and more than likely will require tax from your date of purchase.

A sunroof wouldn't be high on my list of priorities but I'd suggest drive as many variants of both M3 and e92 and decide which is going to be more usable on a day to day basis!

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Just to reiterate what's been said about the E46 M's, forget about the year and buy on condition. I'd also look at the spec on them as things that are nice to have but are not necessary nor the reason for buying an M :)

At the end of the day if you're buying a car with 80-100k miles on it, it will be getting to the stage that things will need to be replaced on them, especially if you're using it as a daily driver.

I would certainly look at condition, just not condition alone, likewise I wouldn't get a late model with low mileage that was neglected.

I like how raw the e46 M3s are, but also like the refinement of the e92. I guess what I'd really like is an e92 M3 but till then it's an E92 335i or E46 M3 :p

The one in Beshoff's has another 18 months warranty on it. Peace of mind there and even if you only kept it the 18 months, you'd have ticked it off the list of cars to own.

http://www.carsireland.ie/car-dealers/county/dublin/beshoff-motors/detail.php?ad_id=1145011&r=s.php%3F%26g%3D0

Good colour combo and sub frame work done
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-3-series-e46-m3-manual--subframe-reinforced/3076256

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The one in Beshoff's has another 18 months warranty on it. Peace of mind there and even if you only kept it the 18 months, you'd have ticked it off the list of cars to own.

http://www.carsireland.ie/car-dealers/county/dublin/beshoff-motors/detail.php?ad_id=1145011&r=s.php%3F%26g%3D0

Good colour combo and sub frame work done
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-3-series-e46-m3-manual--subframe-reinforced/3076256

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I keep going on carzone, doing the same search, opening the ad and staring at it.

Peace of mind is what you're buying there for sure! But no sat nav or sunroof and much prefer the style 230s, 78k too which means a couple of years and it will be 100k and more difficult to shift. 13,950 is def good considering the warranty but is more than similar cars. I can't help but think there's a better one/deal to be had somewhere.

M3 looks good, how difficult is it to import a car actually? Don't know anything about the process..

Ok so...

http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW-3-Series-335-TWIN-TURBO-M-SPORT-WITH-LOW-MILEAGE--Fresh-2yrs-NCT/201445228449820

Spoke to the owner, water pump and thermostat walere done along with the coil packs and brakes. New tyres although the alloys are in tatters and one is welded.
Original fuel pump, injectors and turbos. It's now @~70k.

No warranty but he will do a pretty good deal. Thoughts? There will be spare change for possible surprises. But would it be better to hold out for the right one to pop up in Beshoff's or the like with warranty? I can't quite put my finger on it but although it's been maintained well I get the impression that it didn't have an easy life / that it isn't the trouble free car that I'm after..

Definitely want to take a closer look at it but it's a bit awkward with work, seeing as it's in Dublin : /

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Ok so...

http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW-3-Series-335-TWIN-TURBO-M-SPORT-WITH-LOW-MILEAGE--Fresh-2yrs-NCT/201445228449820

Spoke to the owner, water pump and thermostat walere done along with the coil packs and brakes. New tyres although the alloys are in tatters and one is welded.
Original fuel pump, injectors and turbos. It's now @~70k.

No warranty but he will do a pretty good deal. Thoughts? There will be spare change for possible surprises. But would it be better to hold out for the right one to pop up in Beshoff's or the like with warranty? I can't quite put my finger on it but although it's been maintained well I get the impression that it didn't have an easy life / that it isn't the trouble free car that I'm after..

Definitely want to take a closer look at it but it's a bit awkward with work, seeing as it's in Dublin : /

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Could be wrong but don't think that's an M-Sport. Steering wheel doesn't have the M logo and thumb grips and also looks like the head-lining isn't right either!

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Definitely not M-Sport, no m-sport till 2007. SE with sport suspension, seats and kit.

Headliner,dechrome and steering wheel and it will be a sport

It's weird that on realOEM they have the shadow line external trim priced cheaper than that brushed aluminum! Wonder if it is actually cheaper and what it costs here to get!

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Headliner,dechrome and steering wheel and it will be a sport

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This is true.

So question is, is the 3k price difference between it and the one in Beshoff's set aside for surprises the equivalent of a warranty? I can imagine something like the turbos would eat into that big time!

I'd be paying the extra with the warranty on a car like that..my cousin's 2011 335i with 10k on the clock had some pretty costly work done under warranty, so isn't always higher mileage cars that go wrong.

I can't see you buying a kitted up SE, don't think your OCD would cope! Don't forget the Beshoff's one is a year newer too

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I'd be paying the extra with the warranty on a car like that..my cousin's 2011 335i with 10k on the clock had some pretty costly work done under warranty, so isn't always higher mileage cars that go wrong.

I can't see you buying a kitted up SE, don't think your OCD would cope!

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This was the case on the e46 e39 etc but the fact it has all the sport suspension and original front and rear bumpers id class this car as a sport if the remaining 2 or 3 pieces were fitted

The suspension, bumpers and seats are the most exspensive so another couple of hundred and it would be no different to a sport from the factory

If you change your car, will you be looking at changing the wheels? If so then you'll need tyres too, depending on the brand of both you could be looking at a couple of grand! So if you're willing to spend that on wheels and tyres and doing a bit of mod'ing then just buy one and drive it for 6 months before mod'ing. Put off buying the few bits in case something drastic happens! My point is, you're probably going to be spending money on changing something anyway, so just do the turbo's and get the mods done later! Failing that keep an eye out for a 325 with the 3.0 non-turbo they put out about 265hp.

It's like buying a new smartphone or pc....... Every few months there's a new one and if you don't just take the plunge and get one then you're always going to be thinking of something like what-if all the time!

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I hope that post doesn't come across as too blunt! It's hard to express a tone in writing!:angel:

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Pretty sure the N52 3.0 in the 325i puts out 218 bhp

Not at all Paddy, agree 100% :) I dont want to do anything to the car actually mods or otherwise :p I'm just thinking is cash put aside an equivalent to a warranty. Warranty is certainly better I'd say!
I think it'll have to be 335i or nothing. 325 or 330 won't cut the mustard I'm afraid :D

@Don I actually like the SE on the 335s it has a certain "je ne sais quoi" about it :p I just want my sat Nav and sunroof.

I'm gonna keep my eyes peeled over the next while and see what comes up. Hopefully something that ticks all the boxes will surface!

Another +1 for a se over the sport in this case, think there much nicer. As for cash over warranty, I think I'd go cash, a lot of these expensive horror stories are from people both buying expensive oe from dealer or going to dealer to get stuff fixed, I know that's not always the case but if you have a good mechanical knowledge or have a good Indy I'd prefer that to a safety net of what if's

I dunno..I'd 100% go for an M Sport over an SE, obviously depending on condition etc, spec is usually better. The later 335i's especially have a great spec, all the bits thrown in.

As for the warranty..I'd say a pair of turbos on one of these would be eye wateringly expensive...so I'd really want the warranty.

Another day another fruitless search... :(

I keep coming back to the one in Beshoff's: ( http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/bmw/3-series/used-2007-bmw-3-series-335i-coupe-dublin-fpa-93414135741647330 ) looks really clean and nice to have the warranty for peace of mind but they really don't come much more basic than that.. Sports interior and suspension are standard, and I imagine aircon can't be an option in this day an age can it? There's nothing else! :p Don't want to invest in a car that'll be 100k+ miles in 2 years time either... I know condition is more important but tell that to a prospective buyer when trying to shift a 100k+ 3 Litre twin turbo paddy spec car privately in a couple of years...

@Don: I never thought I'd say it, but I would genuinely prefer an SE 335i over a sport, only the 335 though! Oh and I'd definitely prefer the warranty too...

Basic ??? That car has a very good spec imo

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Basic ??? That car has a very good spec imo

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What am I missing??

335i sport nav sunroof low miles 10k http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201409087226087/sort/atcustom/postcode/cf103eu/radius/1501/make/BMW/price-from/8000/price-to/15000/page/1/featuredVehicle/true/usedcars

Z4 coupe 9k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201411048718511/sort/atcustom/postcode/cf103eu/radius/1501/make/BMW/price-from/8000/price-to/15000/page/1/usedcars

2008 330i msport manual low miles 10k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201411048726507/sort/atcustom/postcode/cf103eu/radius/1501/make/BMW/price-from/8000/price-to/15000/page/1/featuredVehicle/true/usedcars

This blows the budget out of the water but such a cool little car 09 135i msport 14k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201408186694250/sort/atcustom/postcode/cf103eu/radius/1501/make/BMW/price-from/8000/price-to/15000/page/1/featuredVehicle/true/usedcars

Is the z4 still on your radar , black one here in ireland looks good and in budget
http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/7741796

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Basic ??? That car has a very good spec imo

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What am I missing??

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It looks good to me although im not clued in on the new cars, heated lumbar electric seats auto lights and wipers xenons ,i cant see the interior though on that site with my phone presume its missing the nav

To be honest from the exterior it doesnt look that special to me maybe its the chrome or the wheels but it just looks a little plain i think you could do better if you hold out

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335i sport nav sunroof low miles 10k http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201409087226087/sort/atcustom/postcode/cf103eu/radius/1501/make/BMW/price-from/8000/price-to/15000/page/1/featuredVehicle/true/usedcars

Z4 coupe 9k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201411048718511/sort/atcustom/postcode/cf103eu/radius/1501/make/BMW/price-from/8000/price-to/15000/page/1/usedcars

2008 330i msport manual low miles 10k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201411048726507/sort/atcustom/postcode/cf103eu/radius/1501/make/BMW/price-from/8000/price-to/15000/page/1/featuredVehicle/true/usedcars

This blows the budget out of the water but such a cool little car 09 135i msport 14k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201408186694250/sort/atcustom/postcode/cf103eu/radius/1501/make/BMW/price-from/8000/price-to/15000/page/1/featuredVehicle/true/usedcars

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That 335 is perfect, it'd be in budget if I didn't have to VRT it : /

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335i sport nav sunroof low miles 10k http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201409087226087/sort/atcustom/postcode/cf103eu/radius/1501/make/BMW/price-from/8000/price-to/15000/page/1/featuredVehicle/true/usedcars

Z4 coupe 9k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201411048718511/sort/atcustom/postcode/cf103eu/radius/1501/make/BMW/price-from/8000/price-to/15000/page/1/usedcars

2008 330i msport manual low miles 10k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201411048726507/sort/atcustom/postcode/cf103eu/radius/1501/make/BMW/price-from/8000/price-to/15000/page/1/featuredVehicle/true/usedcars

This blows the budget out of the water but such a cool little car 09 135i msport 14k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201408186694250/sort/atcustom/postcode/cf103eu/radius/1501/make/BMW/price-from/8000/price-to/15000/page/1/featuredVehicle/true/usedcars

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That 335 is perfect, it'd be in budget if I didn't have to VRT it : /

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I know its sickening vrt just ruins it between being bent over on road tax and then vrt on top how is anyone meant to be driving anytging decent over here [emoji35]

Edit: just looked up vrt on an 07 335i with 100k miles +5,300 euro screw that

That Z4 looks well, apart from the weeks is it not exactly what your looking for?