Well lads?
Maybe someone can help me out here. When applying for a gun licence there is a "proof of competence" section.
Is there a course for this or what's the procedure?
Cheers
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Well lads?
Maybe someone can help me out here. When applying for a gun licence there is a "proof of competence" section.
Is there a course for this or what's the procedure?
Cheers
There is a one day course run by the NARGC, the National Association of Regional Game Councils.
It's called a Firearms and Game Hunting Proficiency Course.
I did it a few years ago, it's an excellent course. There's an exam at the end which if you've been paying attention at all you will pass.
The first half of the day is classroom stuff, the law, safety, assembly and disassembly of a firearm, the types of game, when they're in shooting season, what's considered vermin and things like that.
Second half of the day is on a clay pigeon firing range where they go through safety again, explain how to hold a firearm ( shotgun ), let you fire at different types of target, static, moving, etc..
They correct your technique and give you tips and generally give excellent tuition and advice.
The lads I did it with were brilliant, very knowledgeable and well able to impart the knowledge. Also serious men that are well able to shoot.
If you go onto the NARGC website you should be able to find out when the next one nearest you is on.
BTW, the NARGC is basically the association of gun clubs and you have to join up with one if you want to get a gun. But it's worth it as they have excellent insurance and they run these courses.
Not sure if you can do the course if you're not a member but you probably can because....
You can also get a gun licence if you have land that you can shoot on or you know someone that will write a letter to the Gardai allowing you to shoot on their land. But you will only be able to shoot on whatever land you have specified, be it yours or someone else's.
If you're a member of a gun club, you will be allowed to shoot on whatever land that the gun club has arranged for its members to enter. Usually gun clubs have access to whatever forestry is in their area, any farm land that has been granted permission to the club to shoot on ( farmer is probably a member of the club for example ), common mountain terrain that is not a game sanctuary and places like that.
Gun clubs are also very very active in game preservation and take very seriously their role in that area.
You know yourself, you're better off doing everything by the book.
No harm to know the local Garda Fireams Officer either. My experience of them is that they are very sound, I've never had a problem but I always have everything in order.
Best of luck.
+1 on chatting to the GFO before you make a purchase, my experience with them is very good and they will tell you everything you need to get started.
Never had to do the course myself, was brought in after I had a couple of licences.
What are you considering applying for?
@The scout I couldn't have asked for a more informative answer thanks a million.
@ketron I've inherited a fn shotgun and would like to keep it
If somebody wanted to take this up, firing range etc can it be done?
Do you specifically have to have an interest in shooting on land for hunting?
On the app form there is a section to specify the use of the gunQuote:
Originally Posted by kceire
. Hunting . Target shooting. Other (clay ect. )
Yep quite easily, as stated do the competency course then you would have to join a range (if you are interested in target shooting) or a club if you want to hunt etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by kceire
Quite a few clubs around Dublin, a lot of them only really cater for either clays or for rimfire target shooting though. But for beginners I would recommend a rimfire anyways.
If you're out the country the easiest for you would be to get signatures off farmers close to you.Think two is enough and they have to have 100+ acres. Depends on what you also want to use the shotgun for though.Quote:
Originally Posted by dean-e36
No problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by dean-e36
It's worth mentioning that you will have to get a trigger lock for security purposes in order to be Firearms Act compliant ( and also Criminal Justice Act 2006 ).
Also, it goes without saying but I'll say it anyway as its so important..
*Never keep gun and ammunition together.
*Never have a loaded gun in the house.
*Never point the gun at anyone in jest, loaded or unloaded.
*Never travel with a loaded firearm.
*Never discharge a firearm near a public road or dwelling house, or any building.
If you have more than one firearm you will have to get a purpose built gun cabinet, which can be securely locked and fixed to a concrete wall. Again, this is to comply with the Firearms and Criminal Justice Acts.
The Garda Superintendent in the district in which you reside will be the person that decides if you're going to get the licence or not. They will have to satisfy themselves that..
* You can demonstrate a good reason for requiring the firearm.
* You are a person who can have a firearm without posing a danger to public safety.
* You are not a disentitled person under Section 8 of the Firearms Act ( under 16, a person of unsound mind, convicted of certain offences, received a custodial sentence in the previous 5 years etc.. )
* You have a secure place to store firearm and ammunition.
It's worth having a serious think about why you want the gun, it's nice to inherit something like that and it probably has some sentimental value but consider if you are going to use it and use it often enough to warrant the expense and the effort it takes to get and keep the licence.
Also consider if you want something so dangerous in the house. There have been many sad incidents where people have been injured and killed. Especially children.
I'm sure you've though it through. It's a great pastime and the people that are into guns are generally very sound so you'd get on grand with the lads in the club.
It would be worth contacting the local gun club and do the entire process through them. I'm sure they'd help you out.
If your FN is a single barrel I would suggest it's only suitable for game hunting.
If you want to go clay target shooting get yourself an over and under.
If you want to shoot static targets get yourself a rifle.
Best of luck.
It won't be used very frequently but will be securely put away from easy access. (Wouldn't be reachable if someone broke in) and no children
It's a trap gun over and under, im very accustomed to using , maintaining and correct handling of rifle and shotgun. Joys of growing up in the country.
I've just never applied for a licence before, have been meaning to for a long time
Fair play, you'll have a lot of fun down at the range with an over and under. You shouldn't have any bother getting the licence.Quote:
Originally Posted by dean-e36
Sorry if I appeared a bit condescending in my replies, definitely wasn't trying to. I just wanted to put in as much info as possible for anyone to read as it's hard for one person to think of everything.
Making the course mandatory for new licence applicants is a great idea and I learned a lot from a great bunch of lads. I have the cert framed and on the wall.
All the best.
It wasn't condescending at all , i didnt give any information of my experience .very informative and will be a handy resource for anyone else on the site thinking of apply . Thanks again :)
Do they not allow pistols to the lay man no ? lads do quite a bit a shooting around here, off the road, close to it, in fields, over water etc, always though it was a bit to close for comfort really
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Originally Posted by Ford 2
It is possible to get a pistol, but it can ONLY used at the range (approved for pistol shooting) you are a member of. They have been heavily restricted in the last few years as well. Rimfire only, limited to five rounds and generally can only purchase a model pre approved on the garda list of competition standard pistols.
There was a bit of a free for all a few years back once the law on banning pistols was found not only to be non existent, but the garda seizure in the sixties was illegal. They have reigned back licensing since, and rightly so, I know a lot of people that have shotgun/rifle licences that dont have the competence to own them, let alone own a centre fire pistol.
There are plenty of lads, who watch too much TV, spend too much time playing shoot em up games on Xbox or Playstation and who think they're Clint Eastwood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford 2
The same lads would hide under the bed if it came down to it.
Great replies in this thread guys, thanks.
I've always wondered about the process too but never got round to digging deep into it.
It was I my when i got involved in the planning process for a gun range that I bacane interested. That was a few years ago now though so all info from back then has been updated with new rules, regulations etc
Would it be difficult to get a licence in an urban area?
I would be only interested in target shooting, no hunting or anything to be honest.