1M or M3 CSL

Both amazing cars from the M division.

Built in limited numbers and sold out in record time when new. The 1M has been likened to the original E30 M3 due to it's manual gearbox and relatively small size. Purists claim that it is not a proper M car due to it being a turbo and not having an engine designed by BMW motorsport. Is it a box of ///M bits or a great car.

http://www.bhmpics.com/thumbs/bmw_1m_coupe_2011-t3.jpg

Also built in limited numbers but hard to sell when new with buyers finding it hard to justify the 50% price increase over a standard M3, the car now has a cult following and is one of the most sought after M cars by enthusiasts and collectors. Probably one of the best sounding BMW's of all time but with an SMG gearbox that many still claim is "total rubbish".

http://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/up...24-655x491.jpg

Which one would you rather have in your garage?

Ooh thats a mega hard question both outstanding cars but the csl pips it for me , if i couldn't get along with the smg id just fit the manual box [emoji41]

If I had to choose between the two and could afford either it would be the CSL for me. The proportions, naturally aspirated engine, carbon bits and of course sound would win it for me. The focus of the product that is the CSL is appealing. Of course if someone handed me a 1M I would not say no. I would like to drive both and see what the real world differences would be like.

Very very tough call. If I'm being honest, I prefer the looks of the 1M..but would still have the CSL.:cool:

Voted for the CSL, but the 1M would be on the want list too!!

Neither!

Z4 M Coupe all day long.

Just as focussed drive as the CSL, equally as fast, and no loss of creature comforts. Trades a proper gearbox for the carbon airbox.

The 1M is a poster car and not as fast as any of them. It has one of the slowest Nurburgring lap times of any modern M car.
I love the styling.
However it takes all the bits of the E92 M3 and leaves the best bit (the engine) behind.
The N54 turbo'ed cars never sounded that good either. My M135i (N55) with Performance exhaust sounded much better than a 1M.

What driver aids did the 1M exactly lack????
AFAIK it had all of them apart from having to change gear yourself.

And for the record the Z4 M Coupe is just as rare as a 1M with regard to worldwide production numbers.

However to answer the actual question, I would pick the 1M as its a much better looking car than the E46 even with the CSL upgrades, in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by DoktorB

Neither!

Z4 M Coupe all day long.

What driver aids did the 1M exactly lack????
AFAIK it had all of them apart from having to change gear yourself.

However to answer the actual question, I would pick the 1M as its a much better looking car than the E46 even with the CSL upgrades, in my opinion.

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The Z4M wasn't on the list :D

You are quite correct though, the 1M did not lack any driver aids, I have removed that bit.

For me it is a very very close call as I love both cars which is why I put up the poll. If push came to shove, I would have to go with the CSL for no other reason than it just feels a little more special.

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Originally Posted by DoktorB

However it takes all the bits of the E92 M3 and leaves the best bit (the engine) behind.

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Here's a 1M with the proper engine. Looks proper mental in the flesh!

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...psyowxrahw.jpg

The CSL is fantastic but the 1M would be my choice for a day's driving.

For those bashing the SMG gearbox, it's not that bad once you get used to the clutch behaviour. You get a feel for it the same as you would a manual or auto. It takes time though.

Personally, I'm glad they didn't put the E92 M3 engine into the 1m, this was a car that was about BMW going back to it's roots. It needed to have a straight six.

A V8 would have sounded wrong.

Id have the 1M..............with the csl engine!

The 1M does nothing for me, it looks good and sure it's probably a hoot to drive and I've tried to like it but it still triggers no desire from me at all.

I'll have a 1M some day, even if i have to sell my soul!

As much as I love the CSL, I'd pick a 1M, think they are class!

1M for 2 reasons, manual gearbox and more compact dimensions.

M badge to my mind has been watered down a bit to be a bit of a pastiche in recent years, imho. This doesn't impact the CSL but there probably isn't a current M model that is rated higher than its obvious rivals at the moment by the car mags whose opinions I'd value or trust. That's a bit of a shame really.