2017 5 Series first look?

Doesn't look like too much of a departure from the familiar:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...ampaign=buffer

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...-leaked-photos

:(

I'm fed up with companies "playing it safe", it's like apple and the iPhone 7 compared to the 6s and the 6 before it. Little tweak here slight change there. Nothing radical. I get why they do it it's just boring as shit to be honest!!

Looks very close now to the 7 series...and probably alot larger than the old 7 series too. Interior following the same theme as every other model now by the look of it. Will be interested to see what the M Sport one looks like.

It looks very like the Jag XJ from some angles, especially with the wheels on it in the pics

At least it looks as if the F10 bonnet ruler edge at the front has been thankfully removed, not much of a visual move along - the M Sport one is always the one waited for the most by me anyhow.

More details here:
https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...5-series-sedan

This version looks like it could be interesting:
BMW 530e iPerformance: Four-cylinder petrol engine plus BMW eDrive electric drive system (plug-in hybrid), eight-speed Steptronic transmission.
Capacity: 1,998cc.
System output: 185 kW/252 hp at 4,460 – 6,500 rpm.
Maximum system torque: 420 Nm (310 lb-ft) at 1,450 – 4,000 rpm.
Acceleration (0–100 km/h [62 mph]): 6.2 s.
Electric range: 45 km*.
Fuel consumption, combined: 2.0 l/100 km (141.2 mpg imp)*.
CO2 emissions, combined: 46 g/km.

I have to say I like the look of it. The f10 has aged pretty well and so the evolutionary resemblance is fine by me. There have been a few magazine articles in recent weeks with journo's "helping" BMW finalize their ride and handling testing in Wales and the verdict seems to be that they've injected a little more personality back in to it compared to the f10, which would have been probably my one gripe the f10, immensely capable but not an obvious personality.

Its depressing though that the only straight 6 petrol is the 540i.

Looks great ...... I wonder what the Irish poverty spec version will be like lol.....

I saw the car last Month. BMW had a road show and were travelling around with it in a container.
It was a loaded pre-production LHD 540i. RHD production not slated until Jan-Feb.

Couldn't take any pictures as they took the phones of everyone.

Side very 7 and the rear a 3. Front treatment was lovely. The sculpting around the rear window from the high shoulder line looked good too.
Front over hang looked a bit long to my eyes. The bonnet gap looked big almost as if it was slightly open. It's a big car.

Interior, every bit a BMW but I think there's a marked upgrade to the dash materials. One of my pet hates in the bigger BMW's is their widespread adoption of Dakota leather.
This thing I believe had dakota leather but the BMW genius over from Munich couldn't confirm that. The heavy sculpting on the seat faces hid it well though.

Only saw it under indoor lighting so didn't get to see it in daylight.

Thought he said it was starting off at around €52k so a bit of a jump from the F10 although it may be loaded with extra gizmos as standard.

My brother went to one of the viewings a few weeks ago liked it but got a fair shock when he was priced circa 24k to move from a 15 to 17 like for like car

Interesting comments on pricing.

It prompted me to have a look back at some old pricing. Back in 2008, an e60 520d SE Auto was priced at rrp of €57285. With the adoption of the CO2 based VRT, the RRP for the same car dropped to €50826. By the end of 2009 the same car had dropped in price to an RRP of €45519, but if I recall correctly the spec had also been extended to include leather on the run out cars, making these pretty good value at the time.

I don't have an opening price to hand for the arrival of the F10 in 2010 but the current RRP that BMW are now quoting for an F10 520d SE Auto is €49203.

So, despite the VRT rate dropping from 23% to 16% a 520d SE Auto has increased in price by 8% in a period of time when inflation has been more of less stagnant. The drop in the VRT rate amounts to a further difference of approx. €2.5k over the same period by my calculation.

Looks like BMW have been fairly aggressive in their pricing updates over recent years!