E60

Hi all,

As much as I love my M4, I've reluctantly accepted it may not be the most appropriate daily driver now that I'm spending more time back in the office with a motorway commute a few times a week.

Therefore I'm on the lookout for an E60, preferably a 520d (as fuel economy is the priority) in M Sport trim. Not too bothered whether it's pre-LCI or LCI.

Let me know if you know of anything for sale, or if there's anything I should be looking out for.

By the way, does anyone know the name of colour of this one is (looks a bit like Interlagos Blue but I think it's slightly different)? https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...-auto/29132772

Thanks

Talk to HealyC, he may be parting with one from his E60 collection [emoji16]


Regards
Andy

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Talk to HealyC, he may be parting with one from his E60 collection [emoji16]


Regards
Andy

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The Imola red E60 is gone, went within a few hours of being on Dungdeal. Down to just one now [emoji23]


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Originally Posted by HealyC

The Imola red E60 is gone, went within a few hours of being on Dungdeal. Down to just one now [emoji23]


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Well let me know if you want to sell that one!

Still on the hunt! Decent cars seem to be hard to come by on the likes of DoneDeal, and any that do appear seem to get snapped up quickly.

Anyone have or know of anything for sale?

My only criteria (slightly changed since the original post) are:

1. Diesel
2. M Sport
3. Black
4. Post- July 2008
5. Timing chain sorted
6. Preferably with a set of Style 172s and a black interior, but would live with something else if all other boxes were ticked

:eek:

https://www.adverts.ie/car/bmw/520/2...-look/25776940

That's quiet nice, if only it was automatic id go for it myself

I’d seen that one, looks nice alright! I’m a bit agnostic about manual vs auto but I suppose if the car is mainly for commuting an auto would make more sense.

Would a relatively low mile original Irish E90 M Sport fit the bill either ? No mention of chain being done, so assume not of course......

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...108?campaign=3

https://pictures.donedeal.ie/eyJidWN...352b8dd4b7a936

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Originally Posted by Big H

Would a relatively low mile original Irish E90 M Sport fit the bill either ?

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Potentially, although the price would need to make sense relative to what I could get an E60 for. I’ve owned an E9X before and I find the E60 is definitely a step up in terms of comfort, plus I sort of prefer how the E60 looks. That one does look nice though.

I haven't looked at diesels in ages, so out of interest I thought I'd work out what it might look like to import something from the UK (in this case a 535d as there are virtually none here).

Based on the cheapest post-2008 one I can find on AT in the colour that I want (here: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-det...us=1500&page=1 ), my calculations are as follows:

Purchase price (in Euro at today's exchange rate): €8,065.23
VRT: €6,436 (NOx charge is €3,550)
VAT @ 23%: €1,855*
Customs Duty @ 10%: €806.50*
*I assume the VAT and Customs Duty are calculated on the purchase price before VRT?
Total: €17,162.73

Is this right? A circa £7k car costs €17k to bring into Ireland? :boxing:

Expensive way of getting a car these days.

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Regards
Andy

Seems so! Feckin hell.

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Originally Posted by CitizenKane

I haven't looked at diesels in ages, so out of interest I thought I'd work out what it might look like to import something from the UK (in this case a 535d as there are virtually none here).

Based on the cheapest post-2008 one I can find on AT in the colour that I want (here: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-det...us=1500&page=1 ), my calculations are as follows:

Purchase price (in Euro at today's exchange rate): €8,065.23
VRT: €6,436 (NOx charge is €3,550)
VAT @ 23%: €1,855*
Customs Duty @ 10%: €806.50*
*I assume the VAT and Customs Duty are calculated on the purchase price before VRT?
Total: €17,162.73

Is this right? A circa £7k car costs €17k to bring into Ireland? :boxing:

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One way to make you feel violently ill.

Any diesel before Euro 6 (mandated from around Sept 2015, iirc, but some BMW diesels were EU6 compliant earlier - back to F10 530d around the LCI in 2013 being the earliest example I think (or 330d/730d, etc. with Blue-Performance option specified from around 2012) will be fleeced for NOx, so well worth thinking about a petrol as an alternative. In the case of the e60 535d, the CO2 category/rate is the same for a 530i (LCI - N53), with similar power, etc, but NOx on the petrol is a small fraction, so there's a big difference in the on-the-road cost of an import (still a ridiculous final number). It makes it worth considering the real delta cost to running a petrol and how long the extra running costs would be covered by the difference.

Alternatively, if you must go diesel, its worth thinking whether something EU6 compliant and a few years newer may only be marginally more expensive to get on-the-road, e.g. an LCI 530d, or Blue-Performance specified car (535d wasn't EU6 compliant until later, maybe early in 2015, would need to dig a little to remind and confirm the precise timing).

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Any diesel before Euro 6 (mandated from around Sept 2015, iirc, but some BMW diesels were EU6 compliant earlier - back to F10 530d around the LCI in 2013 being the earliest example I think (or 330d/730d, etc. with Blue-Performance option specified from around 2012) will be fleeced for NOx, so well worth thinking about a petrol as an alternative. In the case of the e60 535d, the CO2 category/rate is the same for a 530i (LCI - N53), with similar power, etc, but NOx on the petrol is a small fraction, so there's a big difference in the on-the-road cost of an import (still a ridiculous final number). It makes it worth considering the real delta cost to running a petrol and how long the extra running costs would be covered by the difference.

Alternatively, if you must go diesel, its worth thinking whether something EU6 compliant and a few years newer may only be marginally more expensive to get on-the-road, e.g. an LCI 530d, or Blue-Performance specified car (535d wasn't EU6 compliant until later, maybe early in 2015, would need to dig a little to remind and confirm the precise timing).

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Helpful, thanks. Realistically I will probably just end up going for a four-pot diesel, given the objective is mainly commuting now, so I doubt I'll consider importing. If I could get something with a bit more poke like a 530d or 535d as long as the others boxes are ticked then that would be a bonus, but I'm not hung up on it.

Mind you, I would consider getting a pre-2008 535d and live with the tax if I could find a clean one, but they are like hen's teeth.

Here's a low miler LCI E60 M Sport - you'd want to be quick I'd say....

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...miles/30069516

https://pictures.donedeal.ie/eyJidWN...685c38dd0aa274

Nice. I'd actually seen that one up a few weeks ago by the same dealer, maybe it's been re-advertised. It does look lovely but I've got my heart set on something Black now so I will hold out :)

I'd take that one above in a heartbeat, love the colour. I bought an 09 carbon black 520 LCI e60 early December. Love it and have spent a right few quid bringing it back to orignal spec.

They are so hard to come by in decent mileage, automatic and good spec ( my deal breaker was heated seats)

Must start a blog, have done so much in such a short time .

Hope something crops up soon, but good ain't cheap!

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I'd take that one above in a heartbeat, love the colour. I bought an 09 carbon black 520 LCI e60 early December. Love it and have spent a right few quid bringing it back to orignal spec.

They are so hard to come by in decent mileage, automatic and good spec ( my deal breaker was heated seats)

Must start a blog, have done so much in such a short time .

Hope something crops up soon, but good ain't cheap!

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Start a thread for it, I'd definitely read it with interest!

Out of interest, that Blue one posted above has road tax of €390 according to the ad, which I've seen on some other ads also. Why is that, I thought all post-July 2008 520d's were at the €270 or €280 band?

If I recall correctly, CO2 output for the EU4 (from late 2007 - 177bhp) manual 520d was 136g/km while the auto was 149g/km, so that would tie with the €390 figure I think.

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Originally Posted by CitizenKane

Out of interest, that Blue one posted above has road tax of €390 according to the ad, which I've seen on some other ads also. Why is that, I thought all post-July 2008 520d's were at the €270 or €280 band?

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Autos are €400 per annum and manuals are €280, only applies to 2008 on N47 cars


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Interesting, thanks!

I have another question for those in the know (sorry for all these...):

In terms of the timing chain, I am aware of the issues they had so I won't be buying a car unless the timing chain has been replaced. However, beyond that I am not sure what exactly I should be looking for in terms of this issue. I assume the preference would be that the chain was replaced as preventative maintenance, rather than after failing? And am I simply looking to see that the chain has been replaced, or is there any other work that you'd expect to have been done at the same time to prevent future failures that I should also be looking for?

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by CitizenKane

I have another question for those in the know (sorry for all these...):

In terms of the timing chain, I am aware of the issues they had so I won't be buying a car unless the timing chain has been replaced. However, beyond that I am not sure what exactly I should be looking for in terms of this issue. I assume the preference would be that the chain was replaced as preventative maintenance, rather than after failing? And am I simply looking to see that the chain has been replaced, or is there any other work that you'd expect to have been done at the same time to prevent future failures that I should also be looking for?

Thanks!

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I wouldn’t get too hung up on the chain to be honest. If the car is in good condition overall and is quiet on start up etc though the chain hadn’t been done I’d go for it. It’s doesn’t cost the earth to get the chain down now.

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is there any other work that you'd expect to have been done at the same time to prevent future failures that I should also be looking for?

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The same issues you'd get with any other diesel with a few miles under its belt - injectors, dpf filter, egr valve, glow plugs & module, turbo etc. etc.

Thanks for the help everyone, I’ve now picked something up. Not very low mileage (around 160k on a 2008 car), but clean and well enough sorted. Moving from an M car to a 4 cylinder diesel is a bit of a shock to the system in terms of the driving experience, but it’s a comfortable thing to float around in and that’s the main thing!