Presume this will be getting released before the M4?: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/scoop/new-bmw-m3-%E2%80%93-latest-pics
Interesting that it seems to have its own code now too - F80
http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/site...y-newer-24.jpg
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Presume this will be getting released before the M4?: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/scoop/new-bmw-m3-%E2%80%93-latest-pics
Interesting that it seems to have its own code now too - F80
http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/site...y-newer-24.jpg
That's a fairly Individual paint job!! :dodgy:
I'll get my coat :P
It's got a tough job ahead of itself even with a proper paintjob Dave! ;) Lot of love for the E90 M3 saloon out there
Here is a video i took around Niurburgring on May with M4 being tested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66MHyv-UfNk&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJ-wUbHKYJ_900TjCPfRMiQ
Those rear arches look beefy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Leins
To get that much power from a 3ltr twin turbo must mean its basically a totally new engine....I think the M3 old guard will have a few philosophical issues with the steering, transmission and induction.....Quote:
Originally Posted by John_D
Theres many N54 and N55's running about with nearly 400hp from just a remap so I'm sure 450 is easily available with just a change of internals,cams and turbo's etc - standard ///M tuning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moe
I'm nearly sure the current M5 engine (S63) has its roots in the standard N63 so I'd say the new M3 engine will be the same.
The S86 and S65 were oddballs in that they didnt have any commonality with the engines in the standard cars.
Looks like they put proper front brakes on an M3 for the first time
The new cars are really going to be full Msport spec cars with handling , power and brake upgrades as they are going to be using a production engine and thats what actually made M cars special
Start buying up your S54 and S65 Engines as the likes of them will probably never be seen again
Engines in M cars have always been based on the standard road car engines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Porscheman
The S65 and S85 were freaks that bucked the trend.
And BTW the S54 was based on the M54. ;)
There S62 , S14 , S54 , S50 , S65 etc are proper motorsport engines with forged internals and nothing like STD production engines , They are full race engines built by the Motorsport division
All M engines, apart from S65 and s85, share block designs from their standard road car counterparts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Porscheman
The new engines in the current M5/6 and forthcoming M3/4 are no different and will be modified and tuned in the same way you have mentioned above. They have to be modified with stronger internals as they produce over 100hp more than the standard engine.
The S65 and S85 were different in that they were completley bespoke to the M cars they went into.
The new engines are not built in house by bmw motorsport and will not be modifyied and tuned internally like the previous M EnginesQuote:
Originally Posted by DoktorB
The current engines are not proper race engines but previous engines were
Are you sure about that??Quote:
Originally Posted by Porscheman
BMW seem to disaggree.
Download and read this pdf.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=bmw%20s63%20difference&source=web&cd=11&ved=0CCkQFjAAOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.m5board.com%2Fvbulletin%2Fatt achments%2Ff10-m5-discussion%2F194817d1360766519-s63tu-engine-technical-training-s63tu-engine.pdf&ei=kfkAUuCUFunhygGqm4GwAw&usg=AFQjCNHxz6xO6sJplVASvGVlRasjCtREDQ