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Evening all, long time no post.
I have a 2007 E60 LCI and I want to do a genuine Bluetooth retrofit. (Small screen I-drive)
The only problem I see is that I can't find any loom for the TCU/MULF phone box thingy in the boot.
I have looked on the left side up as far as the back seat and no joy.
Is it normal for some cars not to have the loom or am I looking in the wrong place?
The only module in the foam block in spare wheel well is the PDC controller.
Cheers...
John
I've read it may be behind the glovebox? Have you done a VIN check to see if it has bluetooth preparation?
The Bluetooth module is normally located behind the rear seat on the left hand side.
As mentioned, check for "Bluetooth Preparation" for your VIN on http://www.bmwvin.com
No Bluetooth prep on the vin check, I just assumed the loom would be fitted as standard.
I see the retrofit loom(61 12 0 442 293) was discontinued by BMW a year or two ago.
Not to worry, it looks like aftermarket is the way to go...
cheers lads.
Look at the Dension set up, it will work like OEM within iDrive.Quote:
Originally Posted by John_D
An alternative, "cheap" option is a bluetooth auxiliary adapter with microphone. This comes highly recommended: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-Sound...nker+soundsync - £12
Only irritation is that you have to be in AUX in mode but I have one of my steering wheel buttons set up for that anyway.
Ok well in a turn of events I've just bought a ULF/TCU loom. I'm going the full factory route .. call me mad but it was an absolute steal on eBay. I have fitting instructions too.. it's actually not as bad looking as it sounds. Over the next few weeks I'll pick up a BT antenna, mic and a ULF/MULF should work out a lot cheaper than the dension option.
It'll be a good excuse to try out my new ISTA-P install.. :)
Fair play to you for spending the time to find the parts and good luck with fitting everything. It is not too bad but time consuming.Quote:
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Now keep in mind the last software update for this is from 2009. So you may do all the fitting, the coding etc, then end up with a system that is not compatible with your phone. Many people have troubles with their latest phones in BMW F10 even.
Several MULF modules can only be flashed using the MOST interface so if that is the case of your module and don't have the ICOM that is going to be a very expensive and painful retrofit.
You may not any troubles if you are lucky
But personally I would not recommend this retrofit at all. System is over 8 years old and has not received an update since. You can grab dension 500S BT for 300 euros on ebay. Takes 1h to install and you do get regular bug fix etc.
ISTA/P is not required to install a MULF module. Time to load ISTA/P, job is already done with NCSExpert.
Thanks for your input. I'll do my research and have a good think about it before I commit. I intend to use only Bluetooth with iPhone. (6 currently) Not too pushed about what level of integration I get(phonebook etc..) once I get voice dialling from steering controls.
Dension gateway 500 best option
So I went ahead and did an OE retrofit. Initially got a Mulf and add SA644 to the VO but the mulf was dead so i changed to SA633 when i came across a very cheap TCU.
SOS/assist coded out and it works! sound quality is really impressive i must say.
Only thing that's irking me slightly is that the phonebook wont transfer from my phone (iphone 6), the A-Z menu is greyed out. does anyone else have this issue? I intend to update to the latest firmware using winKFP and see if that solves it.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...015a2dbce9.jpg
Ooh solution...
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Default coded the mask using a blank trace file ... it still thought I had a mulf... bingo. Well chuffed now.
Ideally code using expert mode rather than a blank FSW_PSW file for default coding. Is the Bluetooth unit showing your vin number? You can change that using Tool32, FG_screibhen (or similar spelling) is the command to do it.
Hi, yes I was trying to do that but the ncsexpert copy I have installed only two profiles, default and ncsdummy so I didn’t have an option to turn off trace manipulation... I must look into that. Yep I updated the vin with tool32. Had me stumped for ages until I realised it needed the long Vin with the checksum digit at the end. Every day is a school day! Tool32 while it looks complicated is very fast!
How come you have a signal bar icon on yours? Mine just has the Bluetooth icon..maybe it's diff with a LCI model
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My 530 had the same signal bar Shane !
This is how mine looks
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Thats interesting,, i find the signal display quite useful actually. maybe a software udpate will show it? my car is 03/07 build.Quote:
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Does your have bluetooth prep SA644 or Business phone SA633 ?
my setup is 633 minus the cradle and the SOS bits coded out.
EDIT:
Looking closer, the graphics are different. I`ve a square box around my selection, yours has beveled corners.. even the time is displayed in a slightly different position. it has to be a different software version
That explains it, mines a 12/05 buildQuote:
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I swapped out the MULF in my M6 for a later unit as I suspected my old module was causing a battery drain and the subsequent warning message, I was also experiencing disconnects between phone and car, the dealer hadn’t a clue so I decided to buy one from a 2010 650i (I was looking for any late model e6x) and install myself. The old module didn’t show signal strength bars the new one does....oh and the battery drain issue is gone.
Dealer told me it was my phone, but I showed them it was across multiple phones and that I had two e63 and the issue only occurred in the M6. Then they told me my battery was faulty, I asked for it to be swapped under warranty, they said it wasn’t covered, they were a bit red faced when I told them I bought it from them less than 1 year previous and the battery while not covered under AUC (at time) warranty it was covered under the battery’s own warranty they made up some other crap. Anyway my problem is solved and I’m delighted to have discovered www.Fionnsport.ie down here in Cork for when I need a mechanic to keep my warranty valid. Finbarr knows his stuff ///M wise and actually gives a crap.
Long story short, you can get signal strength with iPhone in e60 with a newer MULF, the bars also appear with older Nokia phones as well, it worked with my N95.
My TCU is dated june 2006, so they must have added the feature late 05 / early 06.
On a side note I find the voice recognition feature utterly useless :) I'd have sent a Raven by the time I dial through...
Bit of a thread resurrection here. So, having upgraded from an iPhone 5S to a 7, I can no longer connect to the Bluetooth module. It’s not even showing up on the phone. Do I need to source an updated module now?
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Managed to get this working today thankfully. User error i may add. I removed my old device from the module and was able to connect to the iPhone 7 then.
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Thread resurrection part 2 [emoji2] the MULF module died on me last year - not sure if water got in but it was draining the battery and I drive was freezing. So, I ended up buying 2 dud units on eBay and then I gave up! A couple of days ago, a MULF2 module came up for sale on eBay again, so I bought it and hey presto, it works! Only thing is..it hasn’t synced my contacts. Does it need to be coded? I was able to sync all my contacts on the original MULF
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I reckon so, had the same on a customers car before after they got a secondhand MULF but he was happy that the Bluetooth was back working and not too bothered about the other functions so never got to properly code it in.Quote:
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Thanks Conor, as it happens, I took the car for a bit of a drive and next thing the contacts appeared, happy days!Quote:
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