New garage - opinions needed

Hi All,

I am going to be losing my garage to a house extension in the near future. This is not a bad thing as my current garage is not ideal for storing the M3. I literally have to get ramps out every time to get it out of the garage and the opening is very narrow.

I have the opportunity to look at building a new garage and wanted to get some ideas from anyone that has maybe built their own specifically for housing cars. I would ideally like to have a wide roller door with a roof height that would allow for the installation of an in-floor scissor lift in the future if funds allow. My architect is not enamoured with the idea as she is “all about the house design” and doesn’t understand the necessity for a well designed garage. I have plenty of space around the house but I don’t want to go crazy on the size either. I was thinking of something around 5m x 6m.

I’ve looked online but not really getting any inspiration.

Budget for now is around €15K and ideally I’d like a block building but it would be tight to get it within €15k so probably need to look at alternative options.

Thought welcome.


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Originally Posted by ecooney

Hi All,

I am going to be losing my garage to a house extension in the near future. This is not a bad thing as my current garage is not ideal for storing the M3. I literally have to get ramps out every time to get it out of the garage and the opening is very narrow.

I have the opportunity to look at building a new garage and wanted to get some ideas from anyone that has maybe built their own specifically for housing cars. I would ideally like to have a wide roller door with a roof height that would allow for the installation of an in-floor scissor lift in the future if funds allow. My architect is not enamoured with the idea as she is “all about the house design” and doesn’t understand the necessity for a well designed garage. I have plenty of space around the house but I don’t want to go crazy on the size either. I was thinking of something around 5m x 6m.

I’ve looked online but not really getting any inspiration.

Budget for now is around €15K and ideally I’d like a block building but it would be tight to get it within €15k so probably need to look at alternative options.

Thought welcome.


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There is a company called Steeltech Sheds that have a huge amount of prefabricated options and also allow you to customise it to your own requirements.

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My architect is not enamoured with the idea as she is “all about the house design” and doesn’t understand the necessity for a well designed garage

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How much is she paying you to design your house?


Something like this? - pit on one side, solid on the other!

On special on that site - 4k for a 6m*5m roller shutter door version. Was in one recently, 9m*6m roller shutter to the front, side door, 6 cars at a squeeze. Nice bit of kit.

Rough concrete base, and Swisstrax Floor (shameless plug :p) and jobs a good'un!

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How much is she paying you to design your house?


Something like this? - pit on one side, solid on the other!

On special on that site - 4k for a 6m*5m roller shutter door version. Was in one recently, 9m*6m roller shutter to the front, side door, 6 cars at a squeeze. Nice bit of kit.

Rough concrete base, and Swisstrax Floor (shameless plug :p) and jobs a good'un!

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Don’t worry, I’ll be going for the Swisstrax floor at some stage.

Not really a fan of the pit, ideally looking for a scissor lift.

I’ve looked at a few options from different steel shed suppliers and ideally I would go for an insulated one.

Does anyone here have one? Pros and cons?



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If you are getting a steel shed and an insulated version, don’t choose PIR insulation as it will degas and loose its therm al performance over time. EPS is a far better choice. I have seen another company using a spray foam also. There are reports that this material can cause health issues over time. Also spraying it directly to the metal is a bad idea without a separation air layer imho.

build it bigger than you think you need... my Garage is a 3 car garage (with a room built in at the back) which i will incorporate into the main garage this summer, we looked at 5 or 6 houses and i turned them all done due to Garage space essentially.. its amazing how much space you use when working on cars, especially with a project car ect, best advice would be to build a comfortable size to work around the car with the doors open, if i were home id wire it for you and give you best advice on what to go for power wise (and a keen price to wire it too :)) , lighting is key, pay cheap pay twice, lots of natural light is good too, and some 5ft LED lights would be the best option also get your electrician to put in a Welding socket even if you dont think you will weld, its cheaper to do it in the building process rather than to add it later, hope it works out for you i found it as exiting to renovate the garage as it was to do the house .. maybe thats a man thing

Andy and Feens, thank you for your input. It’s greatly appreciated.

I agree about the insulation. Steel sheds are not my preference but they give the best bang for your buck.

Great advise on the welding socket. I have a small welder at the minute but never really use it that much.
I want to put in an air compressor also (min 100 litre) and have an air line around the perimeter. This will also be used for releasing the locks on the scissor lift (if and when I get it).

Natural light is always good but I really am not a fan of the lighting panels on the roof of steel sheds although I do see the value to them.




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This is great info as I plan on doing the same, I'm going to go for a shed rather than block/roof style garage to lower costs. I definitely want space for a two post lift!

This kind of style but insulated:

https://www.steeltechsheds.ie/produc...8d794018f7/765

If you need any insulation or even any help with technical details, build or even drawings let me know.

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If you need any insulation or even any help with technical details, build or even drawings let me know.

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Thanks Andy. Much appreciated.


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Originally Posted by Ketron

This is great info as I plan on doing the same, I'm going to go for a shed rather than block/roof style garage to lower costs. I definitely want space for a two post lift!

This kind of style but insulated:

https://www.steeltechsheds.ie/produc...8d794018f7/765

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I’m looking at putting in one of these lifts. Maybe not straight away but I will install the cut outs in the floor regardless and fill with blanks if necessary. All depends on what budget is left after the house.

http://redmount.ie/in-floor-scissor-lift-flush




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Great I’m in the market for the same thing! I was on with SteelTech showroom yesterday, yer man recommended not to insulate?? Also he said 6m x 5m was big enough to store two cars, what do ye reckon?

Also there’s a rival to Steel Tech call Adman, are they any good?

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Great I’m in the market for the same thing! I was on with SteelTech showroom yesterday, yer man recommended not to insulate?? Also he said 6m x 5m was big enough to store two cars, what do ye reckon?

Also there’s a rival to Steel Tech call Adman, are they any good?

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I looked at the Adman sheds and was impressed with their finish alright.

I haven’t rang these yet but check out the link below. They don’t work in my area of the country but seemed reasonable for block built (I think)
https://www.donedeal.ie/farmsheds-fo...kshop/14770257



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I can help with garage equipment eg floor lifts, 2/4 post lifts, extraction systems, compressors, air lines etc etc.

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I can help with garage equipment eg floor lifts, 2/4 post lifts, extraction systems, compressors, air lines etc etc.

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Excellent. Good to know. Where are you based?


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Great I’m in the market for the same thing! I was on with SteelTech showroom yesterday, yer man recommended not to insulate?? Also he said 6m x 5m was big enough to store two cars, what do ye reckon?

Also there’s a rival to Steel Tech call Adman, are they any good?

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Any reason as to not insulate? I have to go large, as in with space for a horse too, its the only way I got it passed the wife :D About 10m x 5m or more, I'm going to mark it out today to be sure. Whats the max that can be built without planning 5mx5m?

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I’m looking at putting in one of these lifts. Maybe not straight away but I will install the cut outs in the floor regardless and fill with blanks if necessary. All depends on what budget is left after the house.

http://redmount.ie/in-floor-scissor-lift-flush




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To be honest I'd still go for a two post, cheaper too. I'd only get one of those if space was a limitation.

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I looked at the Adman sheds and was impressed with their finish alright.

I haven’t rang these yet but check out the link below. They don’t work in my area of the country but seemed reasonable for block built (I think)
https://www.donedeal.ie/farmsheds-fo...kshop/14770257



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That is cheap!

Showed my wife the one you want Ketron and surprisingly she thought it would suit. I would have thought she’d go mad with something that size.


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Great I’m in the market for the same thing! I was on with SteelTech showroom yesterday, yer man recommended not to insulate?? Also he said 6m x 5m was big enough to store two cars, what do ye reckon?

Also there’s a rival to Steel Tech call Adman, are they any good?

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That’s an odd thing to say, especially as they sell insulated versions. Something 6.5 x 7.5m would be a nice size for a 2 car, it gives a bit of space for storage, bench etc. My garage is that size.

It was strange to hear him say not to insulate. I think I would go the insulate route.

any issues with condensation with these sheds?? i know my dads barn was a disaster for condensation dripping off the galvanised roof

I built a block shed 5 years ago. I put a non drip roof on it. Shed cost 15k finished, double leaf wall and plastered on inside also. I got perfect 2nd hand windows and door. Roller door is the insulated type. First thing I would do if I was you is get rid of your designer. Have you any friend with knowledge or trade that could help? Direct Labor was the route I went


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Family have a nationwide car parts and garage equipment business. PM if you want.

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Family have a nationwide car parts and garage equipment business. PM if you want.

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Do ye do roller doors? Will need a custom door made in the next few months. (About 14ft by 8ft)

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I built a block shed 5 years ago. I put a non drip roof on it. Shed cost 15k finished, double leaf wall and plastered on inside also. I got perfect 2nd hand windows and door. Roller door is the insulated type. First thing I would do if I was you is get rid of your designer. Have you any friend with knowledge or trade that could help? Direct Labor was the route I went


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Thanks for the info. What size garage did you get for €15K?

My architect is actually very good. She won’t be designing the garage. That will be my role.

I’m starting to think 8m x 5m should do the job.

We’ve got a very good builder that we hope will be able to carry out the build and he’s into doing deals so I’m still hopeful i can get a block garage but it’s all budget dependant.


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Do ye do roller doors? Will need a custom door made in the next few months. (About 14ft by 8ft)

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No we don't. I have heard of a crowd in Kanturk whom are meant to be good.

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Originally Posted by ecooney

Thanks for the info. What size garage did you get for €15K?

My architect is actually very good. She won’t be designing the garage. That will be my role.

I’m starting to think 8m x 5m should do the job.

We’ve got a very good builder that we hope will be able to carry out the build and he’s into doing deals so I’m still hopeful i can get a block garage but it’s all budget dependant.


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I think that’s a good size and depending on where you put it it could possibly be turned into a granny flat / Office / stable at a later date if needed.

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Originally Posted by ecooney

Thanks for the info. What size garage did you get for €15K?

My architect is actually very good. She won’t be designing the garage. That will be my role.

I’m starting to think 8m x 5m should do the job.

We’ve got a very good builder that we hope will be able to carry out the build and he’s into doing deals so I’m still hopeful i can get a block garage but it’s all budget dependant.


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Mine is 12m x 8m. I had a access to a digger, only had to pay for the diesel. Apart from that everything else was direct


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Mine is 12m x 8m. I had a access to a digger, only had to pay for the diesel. Apart from that everything else was direct


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Thank. That is seriously good value


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my Engineer hat is on now.....build it in block work, did mine a few years ago by direct labour, 300mm block work wall ( two 4" inch walls) with a 100mm cavity with you can fill with insulation beads after, stick a prefabricated truss ( dormer truss & you can use the storage space upstairs) on it & cover it with concrete tiles, 9m x 6m internally & napp render finish outside with two 2.7m metal roller doors & you'll get it up for 15 grand