Thanks for all the replies ...restores my faith, as I had joined a few other forums(Uk/Usa) and got zilch...anyhow..I went to Ballinasloe today to collect a set of front and rear lenses, and indicator lenses, that I came across on adverts.ie...€25 euro the lot...the fronts are spotless so the next dry day I'll have a look at changing em. No harm to have the rears also. I'll try cleaning the old ones, with the toothpaste, after replacing em...just for pig iron! Thanks again....Up the Banner!