At the time I purchased them from ebc. I'm sure lots of people have had good experiences with them and that fine. No matter what way you look at it , they nearly caused me to hit a roundabout with my sister and her boyfriend in the car. So for that reason I won't use them. Which I think is fair enough to be honest. But I must admit they braked really well when they did work. But what good is that if the adhesive between the pad Material and backing plate is rubbish / was rubbish.