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    N47 Timing Chain issue - legal action in Ireland continues

    Another article today in the Independent about the Timing Chain defect. BMW claiming still it is a one year only defect. Some are questioning the quality of the B47 timing chain now too.

    One solicitor is driver the issue hard:

    http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/c...-35668332.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebel.ranter View Post
    Another article today in the Independent about the Timing Chain defect. BMW claiming still it is a one year only defect. Some are questioning the quality of the B47 timing chain now too.

    One solicitor is driver the issue hard:

    http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/c...-35668332.html
    That article is from May 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by canavan977 View Post
    That article is from May 2017

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    He posted it in May 2017!


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    Here's the latest article on the issue

    http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/c...-36164318.html

    (Posted in Sept 2017 for those who suffer with Dyschronometria)

    A dispute over an alleged design fault in BMW engines is set for the courts.

    Dublin solicitor Dermot McNamara has issued the first proceedings after submissions from more than 100 BMW owners nationwide, many alleging catastrophic engine failure.
    The Road Safety Authority (RSA) has also written to the car manufacturer in relation to the alleged safety issues.

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    What a pile of bollox, they are saying the brakes and steering would be still operating. Sure you'd have lost the power steering and the servo would only have one stamp of the pedal left.

    I'm surprised they are getting away with n57's they suffer from the same fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey Bear View Post
    I'm surprised they are getting away with n57's they suffer from the same fault.
    Only with intergalactic mileage and poor servicing from what I’ve heard.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    Only with intergalactic mileage and poor servicing from what I’ve heard.



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    Also the above applies to N47, oh and sticking to bmws recommended 30000km oil change intervals!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by HealyC View Post
    Also the above applies to N47, oh and sticking to bmws recommended 30000km oil change intervals!!!!
    Possibly true, but my old N47 f10 was diagnosed by BMW at 53k miles - I knew the car from new and it had been the opposite of abused by the owner before me that had it from new. Admittedly, it had gotten to low 40's with servicing at BMW recommended service intervals. I do agree that this is an important additional factor in long term health, but it never said on the display or the handbook "Maybe change the oil more frequently so that the chain doesn't break".
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    Any of the cars I've seen with snapped or stretched chains were all coated in varnish inside the engine which means not being serviced enough. The 3.0s aren't as much of an issue because there aren't many in the road and they aren't under as much stress but the problem is still there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dergside View Post
    Possibly true, but my old N47 f10 was diagnosed by BMW at 53k miles - I knew the car from new and it had been the opposite of abused by the owner before me that had it from new. Admittedly, it had gotten to low 40's with servicing at BMW recommended service intervals. I do agree that this is an important additional factor in long term health, but it never said on the display or the handbook "Maybe change the oil more frequently so that the chain doesn't break".
    Agree totally, there only doing what the car (Bmw) tells them to do, i.e service it when requested.

    And as regards the N57, yep there also doing it. As said, not as many out there so not as many cases of it.

    Anyways, all is not lost, the new Merc 4cyl diesels are doing the exact same with the timing chain in the same location!!!!


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