Quote Originally Posted by Andy
Quote Originally Posted by Gar
Aren't nearly all alpinas a lesser version of the full m's ? I know its not an m but its powered by m
Ah but no Gar. Alpina were producing cars that beat any Bmw on power before there were even an M cars. Look at my E12 B7 back in 1980 with 300HP. The best from BMW was an M535i with 218hp. Also the E34 M5 came out with 315 and eventually 340. The B10 biturbo had 360 plus more torque. And generally Alpina bring out their offering of a model range before the M car appears. Yes in some cases in more recent years some Alpina cars look down on power to some M's but they are a very different proposal. I would have an E60 B5 over the equivalent M5 any day.
You shot me in the foot now as you covered my next reply in your post

But i was talking just about full fat m's vs alpinas over the last two decades

Iv always prefered an m over an alpina thats not to say i wouldn't like one id just prefer the other