Motor Tax Changes

[Curran]

Next time you walking through a street full of cars or car park, take a look at how many cars dont have 'full window'. People cant afford tax/nct/insurace. Things will get much worse for everyone next year.

Spot on!!

Make it unavoidable, and not exactly tough to work out a reasonable fair system. The annual average mileage (15000km) and average tax (500) and added the average motor/MPG (Focus/40mpg) and put that on fuel.

If you are a petrol head with 3 cars, doing 20000km per annum, you get to run a daily 520d, the weekend M3 and the classic car.
If you are a Biddy with a Yaris getting a litre of milk and do 2000 km per annum

- The coffers improve as it can be avoided.
- Can't afford the fuel, you walk or use public transport.
- There is not need for a motor tax office and all that goes with it; put the employees to use in another sector; admin in health

Heck, a transferable tax disc would be an improvement, once it met or exceeded the required payment for the car you are using it for.

[RossYB]

All well and good putting it on fuel but that'll effect everything from the local courier driver in his small van to the full on artics and public transport.

[FunkySeeFunkyDoo]

Be careful with the thinking behind putting extra tax on fuel, the costs of all the things you buy...from the food on your plate to the shirt on your back all have to go up in price as it will then cost more for every delivery vehicle to be fueled.
Honestly an annual tax is probably the only sensible way but it shouldn’t be at the rates we are currently paying and it should be put to good use, a bit like the tv license...wouldn’t mind paying it if they used it to make decent Telly instead of repeating shite from UK channels.

Edit: RossyB you just beat me to it there making that point


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[kdevitt]

All well and good putting it on fuel but that'll effect everything from the local courier driver in his small van to the full on artics and public transport.

It wouldn't - its a business expense which they could reclaim, same applies to taxi drivers.

We might as well be talking about what we're going to spend our Euromillions spending on by the way - don't see the current approach changing anytime soon!

[Curran]

As Ken said....like they have VAT reclaimable on Diesel for businesses and Green Diesel for the farmers, etc.
The catch is cross border refuelling....but with Brexit, the chance to change might be there.

[kdevitt]

The catch is cross border refuelling....

Given that every UK, Polish, Lithuanian and Romanian car in the country would be contributing to 'road tax' when they fill up here though, it should help offset the cross border business.

[Dave]

id rather see a usage tax instead of what we have now
tax on the overall annual mileage (more miles you cover the lower you pay as you car is then looked at as a necessity)

with fuel as it is already it could price a lot of the bigger cars off the roads altogether if you go down the road of taxing fuel

priushaus just doesn't have the same ring to it

I think it would be the opposite, a the moment, a big petrol is 10 times the road tax of your average ecobox, if you were to put it on fuel, it would be twice to three times the tax paid on an ecobox. Also if you're running multiple cars, you can use them as you please rather than having to declare them on and off the road in three month stints.

[Curran]

Given that every UK, Polish, Lithuanian and Romanian car in the country would be contributing to 'road tax' when they fill up here though, it should help offset the cross border business.

Good point sir!!

Plus track days, dyno runs, field / slab cars...any non roadworthy motors!

[RossYB]

It wouldn't - its a business expense which they could reclaim, same applies to taxi drivers.

We might as well be talking about what we're going to spend our Euromillions spending on by the way - don't see the current approach changing anytime soon!

You can't reclaim VAT on passenger transport so it's not that easy. (I drive a bus but maybe taxis are different?)

[SmokyMo]

I try not to think about topics like that or government/politics in general. It will never put you in a good mood! haha