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    Ah yeah I'm not really considering one to be honest, perhaps one day but as a daily driver they do seem highly inappropriate.

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    Read rebel.ranters ownership thread, they're a car that require deep pockets.


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    E92 for me - the V8 is just amazing , I doubt I'll have another engine like it. The fuel economy is negligible for that mileage imo ~18mpg vs 20
    cost wise it's on par with the e46 for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenKane View Post
    Ah yeah I'm not really considering one to be honest, perhaps one day but as a daily driver they do seem highly inappropriate.
    Got a link? I've searched for it but can't seem to find it
    There is no thread for my M6, I never did one for it for some reason, in fact I haven't really kept a thread going on any of the cars for ages. A lot of what is said here resonates with me. The low teens MPG, I'm about 15-16 mpg combined, and yep I've seen 7 mpg during Christmas time rush hour traffic. I've also seen 7 mpg on the runway!

    Also feel the same about the car (M6, similar traits to the e92 M3) only getting going at 80mph, you need to be up near 140mph before it starts feeling any bit challenging...a problem on public roads!!!! I have much mor efin in the Mini Cooper S. The M6 is a handful, 507bhp is almost too much in a rear wheel drive, only on a dry day can you properly get the power down, I took off on Sunday not too hard and I ended up sideways leaving a set of traffic lights in the wet....and I'm driving it 4 years, it still catches me out!

    As John mentioned the e92 M3 & e63v M6 are almost too aggressive for commuting in traffic, they are designed to go fast and seem uncomfortable in traffic. I remember 4-5 years ago driving JohnH's e92 M3 with the DSC unit being faulty, I was in stop-start traffic, was looking out the window at something, noticed that traffic had moved on and I panicked a tad and decided to close up the accidental gap, I ended up nearly side ways briefly!

    Moe mentioned SMG III, thank feck someone had the balls to say it!!! SMG III is raw and clunky and mechanical......that makes it better than an auto or DCT in my book. It feels like something that needs taming, yeah all the motoring journos made light of it, they also made light of iDrive at the time yet now, every manufacturer has a version of iDrive. It's a great feeling shifting in the SMG III, you feel like you are banging through the gears not piloting a Playstation game.

    Yep, the v10 is still quick, it's a big old car but it managed (just about) to stay ahead of the current M3/M4 which is savage considering the leaps in technology. But then again I've seen my fair share of woes (JohnH only had a taster), the good days make up for the bad ones though.

    I'll hang on to mine for another while, I've still got warranty, goodwill, and some sort of angel looking over it. Sometimes I say the thing is made of chocolate it melts down that often, but chocolate also tastes good......





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    Rebel I totally agree. When a new M car come out they always find fault. The e46 was not torquey enough, the e92 was thirsty, the f8x didnt sound great. They are not controllable, then when they put auto's and 4wd in them they are too tame and not like M cars.

    Frankly after the e46 these cars all had too much power. The F8x M was classic they had to alter the torque curve in 1st and 2nd because daft dentists were spinning them all over the place and complaining to BMW.

    Power is easy to make, but making a car safe while leaving that fear (fun) in it is hard. I like savage shifts, I like a giddy rear end, I like drive train noise and diff noise. Powerful 4wd audis do nothing for me, they are too easy, too sterile. M cars should feel angry and alive.

    When we are all sitting in electric cars riding torque from 0-60 in 3 seconds we will look back on the golden era of M cars fondly.
    All me beemers are gone.....for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moe View Post

    "...I like savage shifts, I like a giddy rear end, I like drive train noise and diff noise. Powerful 4wd audis do nothing for me, they are too easy, too sterile. M cars should feel angry and alive..."
    Was expressing my agreement with this when I went into a massive tangent about how great early super cars would've been with ~500bhp and no safety features to speak of (when an average saloon had probably 80...)

    It's not a death wish or anything, but you would respect the car and whoever drove it more if it required actual skills to drive!

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